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metalinmyveins Metal graduate


Age : 37 Joined : 10 Jun 2008 Posts : 458
 | Subject: Metal Genealogy Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:24 am | |
| I know there are always discussions about who should be placed where. There was a show on late one night that for all intents and purposes was a study in Heavy Metal Anthropology. This was the family tree that they constructed. Of course not every band will be on here, but it does address the bigger bands out there. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Metal_Genealogy.jpg |
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GrandNational Metal master


Age : 28 Joined : 30 Jan 2007 Posts : 863
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:53 am | |
| | That chart made me dizzy. |
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Temple of Blood Heart of Metal


Age : 33 Joined : 29 Mar 2007 Posts : 1138
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:03 am | |
| The one in the movie Metal: A Headbanger's Journey was the best I have seen. _________________ TEMPLE OF BLOOD - Intense PowerThrash with Biblical lyrics http://www.templeofblood.net http://www.myspace.com/templeofblood
New Album "Overlord" now available! Includes FORBIDDEN cover song! |
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Shawn Of Fire Moderator


Age : 37 Joined : 08 Feb 2007 Posts : 2596
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sam Heart of Metal


Age : 19 Joined : 12 Feb 2008 Posts : 1170
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:00 pm | |
| I've seen that before _________________
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xyz Heart of Metal


Age : 19 Joined : 28 Jan 2008 Posts : 1212
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manny Metal is in my blood


Age : 38 Joined : 05 Aug 2008 Posts : 2562
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:37 pm | |
| | I thought it was cool and interesting, and Van Halen may not really be a pop metal but certainly influenced every hair/pop metal band that came out of L.A. in the 80's |
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mc666 Metal is in my blood


Age : 30 Joined : 21 Jan 2007 Posts : 4673
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:51 pm | |
| Judas Priest is not a power metal band. neither is the Scorpions. _________________

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manny Metal is in my blood


Age : 38 Joined : 05 Aug 2008 Posts : 2562
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:25 pm | |
| | I didn't even notice that Judas Priest and Scorpions were listed as Power Metal !!! |
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xyz Heart of Metal


Age : 19 Joined : 28 Jan 2008 Posts : 1212
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kmorg Administrator


Age : 34 Joined : 02 Jan 2007 Posts : 5353
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:37 pm | |
| Yeah, the power metal bulk is totally off!
And since when is Norwegian Black Metal and Swedish Death Metal separate genres, outside regular black metal and death metal? _________________

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Required Fields Metal is in my blood


Age : 23 Joined : 31 Jan 2007 Posts : 4353
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:11 pm | |
| | Children of Bodom are thrash? |
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Stender Heart of Metal


Age : 18 Joined : 26 Jan 2008 Posts : 1593
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:53 pm | |
| | Required Fields wrote: | | Children of Bodom are thrash? |
yeah thats not the first time I've seen that. _________________ The answer to 1984 is 1776 - Alex Jones "I'll start today just feeling fine In reality my sanity is on the line Why can't life flow nice and easy Its hard when happiness is there to tease me. --Death Angel |
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Addy Metal graduate


Age : 34 Joined : 31 Jan 2007 Posts : 466
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:53 pm | |
| | I think that looks quite cool |
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the sentinel Metal is in my blood


Age : 34 Joined : 31 Jul 2007 Posts : 2980
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:49 am | |
| | mc666 wrote: | | Judas Priest is not a power metal band. neither is the Scorpions. |
Yeah. I struggled with that one for a few minutes too. |
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Shawn Of Fire Moderator


Age : 37 Joined : 08 Feb 2007 Posts : 2596
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:50 am | |
| JUDAS PRIEST and SCORPIONS are two bands that have heavily influenced Power Metal, the way BLACK SABBATH has influenced Doom Metal...but SABBATH isn't Doom and PRIEST/SCORPS aren't Power Metal... Speaking of Doom Metal, where was it? CANDLEMASS isn't Stoner Metal... _________________ http://www.teethofthedivine.com http://www.doom-metal.com |
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manny Metal is in my blood


Age : 38 Joined : 05 Aug 2008 Posts : 2562
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:23 pm | |
| Spec, Ult, and Freddy you guys have not weighed in on this metal genealogy, I showed my wife and she told me to get a life.  |
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Fat Freddy Metal is Forever


Age : 38 Joined : 21 Feb 2007 Posts : 7769
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:26 pm | |
| | manny wrote: | Spec, Ult, and Freddy you guys have not weighed in on this metal genealogy, I showed my wife and she told me to get a life.  |
I got nuthin' to say... I'm not a genre fiend... My "Metal Geneaology" chart would have two sides: "Stuff that's Good" and "Stuff that Sucks." _________________

"I've been following a super-hero with a brain the size of a walnut all across this crazy, mixed-up country... and what has it gotten me? A drinking problem, six gunshot wounds, and an artificial hip." |
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manny Metal is in my blood


Age : 38 Joined : 05 Aug 2008 Posts : 2562
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:57 pm | |
| I am not a genre fiend either, I either like it or I don't. Plus when I was younger because I liked both Venom, Quiet Riot, and Led Zeppelin, I would be given crap for not liking only one specific sub genre.
I also find it incredible that some guy out there created a metal genealogy tree, and he is not the only one. I wouldn't even know where to begin or what band would fit under what sub genre.
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spectrefate Metal is in my blood


Age : 34 Joined : 04 Aug 2008 Posts : 2873
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:59 pm | |
| My reaction to it was: Wow, you at least would think he would spell "Hardcore" right. But I'm an ass like that.
I appreciate his time in creating it, but there are some bands that can go in several sub genres. That genre subject is a hot topic. _________________

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manny Metal is in my blood


Age : 38 Joined : 05 Aug 2008 Posts : 2562
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:14 pm | |
| I appreciate his time in creating it, but there are some bands that can go in several sub genres. That genre subject is a hot topic.[/quote] True, I saw in a thread that ULT mentioned how Aerosmith for example were classified as a heavy metal band in the 70's and 80's, and a few people took issue with this. I happen to agree with ULT, but we are around the same age, so since we grew up with alot of bands that were classified as metal that may not be necessary considered metal if they had released their debut in the last few years as opposed to it being released in 1973. |
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Required Fields Metal is in my blood


Age : 23 Joined : 31 Jan 2007 Posts : 4353
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:35 pm | |
| | Also, Suicidal Tendencies metalcore? It was referred to as crossover. |
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stepcousin Metal graduate


Age : 41 Joined : 11 Mar 2007 Posts : 442
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:04 am | |
| | Fat Freddy wrote: | | manny wrote: | Spec, Ult, and Freddy you guys have not weighed in on this metal genealogy, I showed my wife and she told me to get a life.  |
I got nuthin' to say... I'm not a genre fiend... My "Metal Geneaology" chart would have two sides: "Stuff that's Good" and "Stuff that Sucks." |
I agree bro. That whole list is such a matter of opinion and so many great bands are left off of those lists. There is not one person on planet earth who can totally and completely nail the "perfect list" of metal geneology. until that day comes, some of us will continue to enjoy our favorite rock/metal and some of us will argue about it til the sun burns out. |
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manny Metal is in my blood


Age : 38 Joined : 05 Aug 2008 Posts : 2562
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:33 am | |
| | I agree with both you just trying to start a dialogue on the history, genres etc on metal music. |
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manny Metal is in my blood


Age : 38 Joined : 05 Aug 2008 Posts : 2562
 | Subject: Re: Metal Genealogy Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:58 am | |
| | Aside from what band belong under what genre, this genealogy could become overloaded on info, for example how far would you want to trace the birth of metal? Do you start with bluesman Robert Johnson and Chicago bluemen like Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf, or do you move forward to Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis or even further up to the Yardbirds and The Kinks which we could directly draw a direct link to heavier bands that followed, just something to ponder. |
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