Europe: Even Gayer Than The Night Ranger Topic?

Though this could be in the other category, I figure I'd ruffle fewer feathers posting it here. Europe seems to be hated by "true metal" fans, even those who like 80s cheese. I don't understand it. Personally, from what I've heard (a greatest hits album and Prisoners In Paridise) these guys knew how to write good catchy songs. The early material (judging from the greatest hits) could have been called power/progressive pop metal and I don't see how someone who likes 80s metal couldn't like it. I understand somewhat about their later material but it was still good music for that time period. The greatest hits album I have, 1982-1992, has a nice acoustic version of I'll Cry For You but the origional from Prisoners In Paradise is WAY better IMO. I will get more of their older albums in the future (and no, I am not embarassed to say so).
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Administrator Age : 34 Joined : 02 Jan 2007 Posts : 5331

Prisoners in Paradise is VERY underrated, if you ask me. The Final Countdown, on the other hand, can get all the flack given to it. Still, I really like Europe, and especially the early stuff.
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I like Europe. Always liked Joey Tempest's vox and John Norum's guitar work.
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Never a fan. Too much high-pitched keys for my taste.

I recently picked up their s/t debut. I was in a dollar store and saw 2 copies sitting on the shelf. 2 cd's for $2 bucks? That's a bargain I just can't pass up. Kept one and sold the other on ebay for a tidy little profit. Anyway, about the music. I kinda dig it. From what I've heard, their earlier stuff is more "metal". Other than that, I'm really on familiar with the hits. I work in a sporting arena so if I never hear "The Final Countdown" again in my lifetime it will be too soon.

Heart of Metal Age : 32 Joined : 22 Jan 2007 Posts : 1997

Great band, I love 'em and they can't do no wrong in my opinion,

Debut CD is a timeless classic in my eyes.

Heart of Metal Age : 50 Joined : 06 Feb 2007 Posts : 1844

The debut albums of both Europe and Night Ranger are quite heavy enough for me. I like them both a lot.
And I never listen to the radio, never got bombarded with Final Countdown day after day, so I kinda like that too. But if I didn't keep myself safe from the evils of classic rock radio, I'm sure I'd hate the song too.
If Rattpoisen sees this thread, he'll post a chapter of his forthcoming novel on the first Europe album. I think it's his favorite album of all time or something.

Heart of Metal Age : 21 Joined : 23 May 2007 Posts : 1943

http://www.heartofmetal.net/heart-of-metal-f1/europe-s-t-1983-underrated-metal-classic-t1580.htm?highlight=europe

I aint going to repeat myself but if you want my thoughts here they are.

You wanna know were todays fleet of faceless Euro Power Metal get their influence, look no further than Europe both the early heavy version and the hollywood cheese version (can't stand reprocessed cheese).

The original power metal and the best! Early Swedish steel from the heroic glory daze of Heavy Load, Oz, Overdrive, Torch etc.
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Metal master Age : 18 Joined : 11 Jan 2008 Posts : 516

Europe are a good band

I actully still like "Final Coutdown" but I also love a good chunk of cheese

all in all I'm a fan and theres nothing gay bout'em as far as i'm concerend

nightranger on the other hand........................................ gey

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Heart of Metal Age : 21 Joined : 23 May 2007 Posts : 1943

The faggotry levels are rising...

They were ok for 80's cheese, but about as metal as Michael Jackson

Heart of Metal Age : 21 Joined : 23 May 2007 Posts : 1943

Check out the S/T debut album DC. One of the greatest heavy metal albums of the 80's. Totally begat all that euro power metal stuff nowdays.
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I just gave this cassette a run through again. It's definately rock, but I still dont see it as metal, other than glam. Not too bad though.

Heart of Metal Age : 21 Joined : 23 May 2007 Posts : 1943

Their self-titled. I also checked out part of Prisoners In Paradise.

Heart of Metal Age : 21 Joined : 23 May 2007 Posts : 1943

Tell me this aint heavy metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTOEyhfpg14&feature=related

Totally Yngwie style euro power metal from the early days, but stomps all over Yngwie.
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All right ratt, I'll give it to you, they have metal tendencies.

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Europe is really a pop band in disguise. The only metal part about them is Jon Norum.

Heart of Metal Age : 21 Joined : 23 May 2007 Posts : 1943

Yeah but what a metal part, those icy gothic tones Norum produces makes me want to break down and cry and expose Yngwie for the imposter he is.

Plus ya gotta admit on that debut everyone in the band is on a metal mind.
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Metal novice Age : 22 Joined : 20 Feb 2008 Posts : 91

Alot of people don't know that Europe originally started as a prog band, sorta like YES. However they changed to metal later on (kinda like Krokus, when you think about it). Joey Tempesta was also the keyboardist (and acoustic guitarist) as well as the vocalist in the begining, then they hired on a permanant keyboardist and went down the crapper although Final Countdown is quite catchy.

Ya know what? I don't care what people say. I LOVE keyboard-heavy metal!

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