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PostSubject: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:11 pm

MC666 siad this can make or break a band for him. Same here. If I don't like the vocals, there is no chance I will listen to the band. Bas vox, bad band, imo.

How do you feel?
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:14 pm

Same for me. I can't tell you how many times a band has sounded great to me until the singer opens his mouth and ruins the whole damn thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:17 pm

There are a few bands that break one of my sacred rules and that is you need a good singer to be a good band imo. I love the vocals and thats what makes or breaks a band for me. Some of the exceptions are

Dew Scented - Leif Jensen has those vocals that go right through me but the thrash music is awesome and makes up for it.

A lot of Melodic Death Metal bands would be awesome imo with a stellar or even average singer.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:18 pm

I feel the same way.I would like alot more Death Metal and Metalcore if it wasnt for the vocalist.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:20 pm

Didn't I start a thread almost identical to this not too long ago?
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:20 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:
Didn't I start a thread almost identical to this not too long ago?


Why are you aksing us? Shouldn't you know?
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:24 pm

The answer is yes!

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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:39 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:
Didn't I start a thread almost identical to this not too long ago?

That was secretly about your band, though. This is different. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:44 pm

With very few exceptions, the answer is no. Especially growling/screaming.

I still like some bands with growlers like

Epica
Haggard
Hollenthon
Sirenia

But that's about it. And lately, the stereotypical shrieking male metal singer has really grated on my nerves too.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:52 pm

The vocals ruin a lot of bands for me. Opeth would be brilliant if they
had a vocalist I liked. I ultimately got rid of Mastedon for the same
reason. They final verdict is still out on Kreator, but I think it will
be a keeper.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:17 pm

Yes, ruin. However, it's funny what I'll consider a good vocalist. Rarely it seems that a vocalist is a perfect fit for a particular band. This is some sort of psychological thing, I'm sure, but it works for me!
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:03 pm

Eyesore wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
Didn't I start a thread almost identical to this not too long ago?

That was secretly about your band, though. This is different. lol!


?

I didn't even talk about my own band. Other people may have but I didn't. I was secretly talking about ICED EARTH! People wanna have debates about which singer was better Owens or Barlow and no one seems to care that their guitar riffs are about as average as they come.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:11 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
Didn't I start a thread almost identical to this not too long ago?

That was secretly about your band, though. This is different. lol!


?

I didn't even talk about my own band. Other people may have but I didn't. I was secretly talking about ICED EARTH! People wanna have debates about which singer was better Owens or Barlow and no one seems to care that their guitar riffs are about as average as they come.


Jon Schaffer is one of the best rhythm guitarists there is imo. His downstroking picking technique is nasty. Listen to the riff in The Coming Curse and see what i mean. I agree that he uses the same basis on most of there songs but the songs dont sound the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:32 pm

Yeah this is the same with me. If the vocalist sucks, then I cannot listen to the band. No matter how hard I try.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:46 pm

check out Sacred Steel for decent music with absolutely atrocious vocals. i cannot stand to play the discs because of the vox. i used to have the same problem with Ultimatum (although not quite as bad), up until the last album where the vocals improved tenfold.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:02 am

MetalRob331 wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
Didn't I start a thread almost identical to this not too long ago?

That was secretly about your band, though. This is different. lol!


?

I didn't even talk about my own band. Other people may have but I didn't. I was secretly talking about ICED EARTH! People wanna have debates about which singer was better Owens or Barlow and no one seems to care that their guitar riffs are about as average as they come.


Jon Schaffer is one of the best rhythm guitarists there is imo. His downstroking picking technique is nasty. Listen to the riff in The Coming Curse and see what i mean. I agree that he uses the same basis on most of there songs but the songs dont sound the same.


I'm not talking about technique I am talking about songwriting.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:09 am

I can't get past a flat out bad vocalist, when they are off key or grating. I think I've gotten hardened to the cookie moster stuff though, I can enjoy it fine even though I'd prefer to do without it if I had a choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:31 am

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i used to have the same problem with Ultimatum (although not quite as bad), up until the last album where the vocals improved tenfold.


No offense to a certain person, but that's been my problem with that band too.

Then again, I don't much care for most thrash vocals in general. Therefore, I never gave Into The Pit a shot because I figured it would be more of the same vocal style.

Maybe I need to check it out?
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:36 am

Nope I cannot if the vocals are absolutely horrible I can't do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:39 am

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Nope I cannot if the vocals are absolutely horrible I can't do it.


The funny thing is, everyone's definition of "horrible" is different.

Take Bon Scott for instance. The really does not have a musical voice but I love him anyway. Then there's Dave Matthews. The guy can carry a tune but something about his voice just grates on my eardrums.

Kevin Kinney of Drivin' n Cryin' really has an atrocious voice (nasally, off key) but I love that band. Jon Bon Jovi can sing but other than Lost Highway, I can't stand his voice.

Go figure.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:38 am

I love the instrumentation in all death metal, but can't stand the vocals. They're horrid.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:41 am

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check out Sacred Steel for decent music with absolutely atrocious vocals. i cannot stand to play the discs because of the vox. i used to have the same problem with Ultimatum (although not quite as bad), up until the last album where the vocals improved tenfold.



Sacred Steel is the perfect example and who I was actually thinking of when I mentioned that bad vocals ruin things for me, but sometimes an unusual vocalist fits perfectly to a particular band/style. I LOVE this guys' vocals.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:46 am

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check out Sacred Steel for decent music with absolutely atrocious vocals. i cannot stand to play the discs because of the vox. i used to have the same problem with Ultimatum (although not quite as bad), up until the last album where the vocals improved tenfold.



Sacred Steel is the perfect example and who I was actually thinking of when I mentioned that bad vocals ruin things for me, but sometimes an unusual vocalist fits perfectly to a particular band/style. I LOVE this guys' vocals.


I've never heard Sacred Steel but I remember reading a review of one of their albums where the writer compared the vocalist to Alvin (of the Chipmunks) and said the disc sounded like a "Chipmunk Metal" CD. Laughing That in and of itself was enough to make me decide to avoid them.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:24 pm

I can't stand Luke Easter's singing on anything but Vanishing Lessons. Dave Mustaine's vocals kill it for me too sometimes.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you listen to some bands even though you hate the Vox?   Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:40 pm

No, vocals make it for me. If the singer sucks so does the whole thing. Take Children Of Bodom for instance great until he sings sick
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