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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:06 am

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Iron Maiden


A lot of people will disagree with this one - and the smurf up has a name and it is Blaze (of course, the song writing wasn't as strong w/o Adrian Smith)


Yeah, the Blaze era was lack luster. However, it was still metal and as far as I'm concerned, that means they didn't smurf up. I'm sorry no band as far as I can tell hits a home run everytime, after all no one is perfect. To say someone smurfs up should pertain to them changing their sound to please the mainstream (Rob Halford-Two, Metallica-Load and beyond, Savatage-Fight For The Rock, etc.), IMO. As long as a band sticks to their guns and don't compromise for anyone (i.e. staying true to yourself) then they are o.k. in my book.


i liked the blaze years. i love the x factor but virtual xi was a bit 'meh'. i still wouldn't say they 'smurfed' up either


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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:50 pm

Let's see, I can think of a few:

Ultimatum
Bloodgood
Stryper (sure "Reborn" isn't great, but it's not bad either)
Queensryche (yeah, I'm in the minority here, but I like every album!)
Virgin Steele
Clan of Xymox (not a metal band, but I love all their releases)
Depeche Mode (same as above)
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:36 am

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thejokeriv wrote:
thrasher73 wrote:
Iron Maiden


A lot of people will disagree with this one - and the smurf up has a name and it is Blaze (of course, the song writing wasn't as strong w/o Adrian Smith)


Thats what kept them off my list. I thought blaze did a nice try but could never really pull it off... I know though my opinion of blaze is clouded by bruce's stuff though.

Alex


I think the Blaze era is really good. It has a completely different vibe, but non-the-less I like it. Check out The Clansman, Blood on the Worlds Hands and The Unbeliever. I know I'm in the minority in believing that the two Blaze albums were really good. There is some really good guitar playing.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:44 am

RUNNING WILD
SAMSON
TANK
FIST(CANADA)
EXCITER
AXEL RUDI PELL
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:28 pm

Grave Digger
Rage
W.A.S.P.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:42 pm

black sabbath - never really released a truly aweful album but i suppose their are a few lacklustre albums in their catalogue but overall they never became a bad band
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:43 pm

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black sabbath - never really released a truly aweful album


You've obviously never heard the "FORBIDDEN" album, with a guest vocal appearance by Ice-T. Smile


But seriously, for "which band has never smurfed up," I think it's in the eye (or ear) of the beholder of course, but just about every band I like has "hit a clam" at least once in their career, I can't think of anyone whose catalog been golden all the way through.

These are just some of my all time favorite bands, yet each of 'em has "smurfed up" at least once...

Maiden had "X Factor" and "Virtual XI"
Metallica had... well, everything post-1988
Raven had "Pack Is Back"
Helloween had "Chameleon" and "Pink Bubbles Go Ape"
Priest had "Demolition"
Savatage had "Fight For The Rock"
Overkill had "I Hear Black"
Warrior Soul had "Chill Pill"
KISS had "Unmasked," "Crazy Nights"
Dio had "Angry Machines"
Twisted Sister had "Come Out and Play"


I'm sure there are some folks out there who like each of those albums, but I don't...
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:04 pm

megadeth had risk and to a lesser extent cryptic wrtings
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:54 am

Fat Freddy wrote:
TheGooch wrote:
black sabbath - never really released a truly aweful album


You've obviously never heard the "FORBIDDEN" album, with a guest vocal appearance by Ice-T. Smile

i always respected Ice-T & his love of Sabbath & metal in general was admirable. however, in no way did he belong on a Sabbath album. he did a good job with the Slayer collaboration, but Sabbath are on a whole different level. it was a travesty.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:26 pm

Death never smurfed up.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:05 pm

Good call on Death!

I'll throw in Pestilence too!



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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:19 am

Yea Pestilence! I need "Consuming Impulse".

While we're on death metal, i'm gonnna say AMON AMARTH. Hail Odin!
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:20 am

journeyman wrote:
exact33 wrote:
thejokeriv wrote:
thrasher73 wrote:
Iron Maiden


A lot of people will disagree with this one - and the smurf up has a name and it is Blaze (of course, the song writing wasn't as strong w/o Adrian Smith)


Thats what kept them off my list. I thought blaze did a nice try but could never really pull it off... I know though my opinion of blaze is clouded by bruce's stuff though.

Alex


I think the Blaze era is really good. It has a completely different vibe, but non-the-less I like it. Check out The Clansman, Blood on the Worlds Hands and The Unbeliever. I know I'm in the minority in believing that the two Blaze albums were really good. There is some really good guitar playing.


The production was lacking on those two releases also. I do like The CLansman and Sign Of The Cross on Rock In Rio (of course, Bruce is singing) - IMHO just shows that blaze was wrong for Maiden
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:28 am

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i always respected Ice-T & his love of Sabbath & metal in general was admirable. however, in no way did he belong on a Sabbath album. he did a good job with the Slayer collaboration, but Sabbath are on a whole different level. it was a travesty.


If memory serves, Ernie C. (Body Count's guitarist) produced Sabbath's FORBIDDEN so that's where the Ice-T connection comes in. It was just a very strange idea all around.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:05 am

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Yea Pestilence! I need "Consuming Impulse".

While we're on death metal, i'm gonnna say AMON AMARTH. Hail Odin!


"Consuming Impulse" RULES!!! It was one of my first death metal albums back in the day. I still have memories of being stoned listening to that album. Don't do pot anymore though ...

Anyway - I've not heard Amon Amarth - but I've heard tons of good things of them. Perhaps I'll purchase one of their discs sometime.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:40 pm

if i had to say best band in rock that never smurfed up then its AC/DC
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:32 pm

Motorhead for sure.

IMO, AC/DC have never released a bad album. I know there are many who would argue that some of their 80s albums are bad, but I don't think so.

I actually like all of Maiden's albums, including the Blaze material.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:36 pm

I nominate The Angels. Sure some of their albums own their other albums (Face To Face, Beyond Salvation, Two Minute Warning) but I have all their albums and none suck IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:18 am

For me it's easily Death. Not only did they avoid "smurfing" up, but they managed to make each album even better than the one before it.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:46 am

The only artist I own everything of, and have never been disappointed by, is Joe Satriani. I love everything the man has ever created!!! Very Happy I know he is not Metal, but everything else I thought of ( AC/DC, Aerosmith, Anthrax, Dokken, Dream Theater, KIss, Priest, Maiden, Savatage, Scorpions, WASP) have at least one album or a point in their careers where I have been disappointed after purchasing a new release. The only 3 bands that I could maybe put in this category of never smurfing up in my eyes would be Hurricane,Whitesnake, and Y&T. Peace.
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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:59 am

mc666 wrote:
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Motorhead released a good LP? lol!


They never released a bad LP. Motörhead is the band.

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PostSubject: Re: Best Metal band that have never have smurfed up!!   Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:14 am

tohostudios wrote:
I nominate The Angels. Sure some of their albums own their other albums (Face To Face, Beyond Salvation, Two Minute Warning) but I have all their albums and none suck IMO.



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