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|  Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron)  Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:21 am | |
| | Temple of Blood wrote: | | random? What do you mean? |
Well, out of all the metalcore bands, you just like one song. I'd say that's a bit random. Why do I only like one gay pop song?
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:23 am | |
| Nothing random about it. It's the only one I've heard that had good riffs.
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:31 pm | |
| | I love Pro-Pain's music but sometimes Gary's voice gets on my nerves. Other Metalcore i like are No Innocent Victim and Disciple A.D. That one record by "In Cold Blood" was pretty cool too. |
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:38 pm | |
| | I consider Pissing Razors metalcore and i liked them too. |
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:52 pm | |
| i c a lot of comments about not good guitar work, some of these metalcore bands have killer guitarists especially All That Remains and God Forbid. Most dont like the vocals i agree with that but some of the music is just too awesome to pass by..
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:58 pm | |
| How do you classify Becoming The Archetype? These guys are incredible and they may fall into some "core" category and thus be an example of one I like.
As I Lay Dying's last one is good and has some definate thrash elements that please....
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:00 pm | |
| | troublezone wrote: | | I love Pro-Pain's music but sometimes Gary's voice gets on my nerves. Other Metalcore i like are No Innocent Victim and Disciple A.D. That one record by "In Cold Blood" was pretty cool too. |
No Innocent Victim is hardcore. And one of the best. Love that group!
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:17 am | |
| | Eyesore wrote: | | troublezone wrote: | | I love Pro-Pain's music but sometimes Gary's voice gets on my nerves. Other Metalcore i like are No Innocent Victim and Disciple A.D. That one record by "In Cold Blood" was pretty cool too. |
No Innocent Victim is hardcore. And one of the best. Love that group! |
You took the words right out of my mouth about NIV Eye. Disciple A.D. is also hardcore. I have gotten in to a few Metalcore bands lately though. I like KSE, All That Remains, As I Lay Dying and a couple others. |
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:24 am | |
| This God Forbid band that TOB mentioned has piqued my interest. Sounds good to me.  |
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:30 am | |
| You know, I've gotta say, the music sounds pretty good but the vocals are terrible. Just doesn't do anything for me. I guess the sound just ain't right for me.
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:41 am | |
| | Shadows Fall, Killswitch Engage, Demon Hunter and All That Remains are some of the ones I like best. |
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:10 am | |
| | spectrefate wrote: | | This God Forbid band that TOB mentioned has piqued my interest. Sounds good to me. |
God Forbids latest cd The Constitution of Treason was killer i loved it and i would rec. it as well..
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:31 am | |
| | NIV is hardcore but very metallic hardcore thats why i included them on this thread. |
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:08 am | |
| | Eyesore wrote: | MAROON
Another great band is Maroon. They play a style that fairly synonymous with what most view as metalcore, but—I think—they do it with much more skill than most. Unlike a lot of metalcore bands, it doesn't seem like Maroon is playing their metal riffs and leads right out of Metal Riffs and Leads for Dummies. Just killer extreme metal, with a little hardcore mixed in.
"(Reach) The Sun" (from The Cold Heart of the Sun)
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I like Maroon very much. I discovered them some time ago on a promotion CD of Metal Hammer magazine. I purchased "When Worlds Collide" and was not disappointed. Last Saturday I bought "The Cold Heat of the Sun". In my opinion they aren't pure Metalcore, they are a mixture of Metalcore with Death Metal. Very brutal and aggressive. Also there guitar work is IMHO very good. |
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:21 pm | |
| | MetalRob331 wrote: | becoming the archetype are more along the lines of melodic death metal.
Really talented band.. |
BINGO, not metalcore at all, straight up melodic or progressive death metal! Probably my favorite band right now. |
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:25 pm | |
| | 007 wrote: | | You know, I've gotta say, the music sounds pretty good but the vocals are terrible. Just doesn't do anything for me. I guess the sound just ain't right for me. |
Ditto. Way too much WOOOOAAARRRRRGH on the vocals for my taste.
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:34 pm | |
| | MetalRob331 wrote: | There are a few others i dig like God Forbid, Diecast, The Agony Scene, and Demon Hunter
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not sure about the others, but one thing I do know for certain, Demon Hunter is 100% straight up nu-metal, not metalcore. 
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:41 pm | |
| | Temple of Blood wrote: | | The only metalcore song I like: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxaug-Rwmqw |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxaug-Rwmqw[/quote[/url]]
That is a great song...the whole record is good... 
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:29 pm | |
| | troublezone wrote: | | NIV is hardcore but very metallic hardcore thats why i included them on this thread. |
I don't hear anything metal in their music. It's all hardcore to these ears.
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:33 pm | |
| | ghost wrote: | | I like Maroon very much. I discovered them some time ago on a promotion CD of Metal Hammer magazine. I purchased "When Worlds Collide" and was not disappointed. Last Saturday I bought "The Cold Heat of the Sun". In my opinion they aren't pure Metalcore, they are a mixture of Metalcore with Death Metal. Very brutal and aggressive. Also there guitar work is IMHO very good. |
Metalcore is an ambigious dump-all genre. Is Shadows Fall metalcore? Where the hell is the hardcore? It's not there. But they're considered a metalcore band. A band like Light This City is considered metalcore, but they're really not any different than a band like Arch Enemy.
So I don't put much passion behind what is and isn't metalcore. Like I said, a band like Pro-Pain is a true metalcore band; metal and hardcore, a balanced mix. Yet they're not considered metalcore. Haha. A band like Maroon and Light This City would be considered melodic death metal, or extreme metal, if there weren't so many elitist turds within the metal community. Haha.
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Temple of Blood
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:22 pm | |
| We need more elitists in metal and less "it's all good" and "I'll label this band any genre I want to because it's totally subjective" people. ;P
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:05 pm | |
| | Temple of Blood wrote: | | We need more elitists in metal and less "it's all good" and "I'll label this band any genre I want to because it's totally subjective" people. ;P |
Nu-metal is metal.
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| | Subject: Re: Good Metalcore (Not An Oxymoron) Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:07 pm | |
| | Temple of Blood wrote: | | We need more elitists in metal and less "it's all good" and "I'll label this band any genre I want to because it's totally subjective" people. ;P |
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