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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:34 am

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and I actually think that Jeff Young is a far better guitarist than Chris Poland was..


What the HELL are you talking about? He barely plays leads on the album and pretty much what he played was dictated.
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:44 am

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And yet I still can't recite the fast parts in 'Liar'.


Haha,back in high school me and my metalhead buddies(there were like only a small handful) would see who could remember that part the best.It sure is a tongue twister trying to spout it off the top of your head
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:51 am

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What the HELL are you talking about? He barely plays leads on the album and pretty much what he played was dictated.


True, but I never thought Chris was a very good lead player. His whole jazz-thrash thing just never gelled with me. He's the main reason I don't hold the first two albums in as high regards as the rest of the Deth catalog. Jeff at least has some structure and restraint to his playing. His solo in "In my Darkest Hour" is way more memorable than any lead Chris ever played.
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:52 pm

Not a great Megadeth album but still underappreciated on account of being squished between Peace Sells and RIP. Really like Into the Lungs of Hell, Hook in Mouth, Mary Jane.
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:48 pm

Chris Poland (guitar) and Gar Samuelson (drums) were replaced by Jeff Young and Chuck Behler, and Megadeth continued their winning streak with yet another stellar platter. Sure, 'So Far, So Good... So What?' will always pale in comparison with the 2 albums surrounding it. But that does not mean that it is a bad record. I guess it all comes down to the impossible task of following a monumental album. Still, there are plenty of choice cuts here as well. From the nice instrumental opener, to the mid-paced "Set The World Afire", through a fine cover of the Sex Pistols classic, "Anarchy In The U.K." and with classics like "Mary Jane" and "In My Darkest Hour" (one of the bands best songs ever, written as a tribute to the late Cliff Burton), this album is at least in the top 5 Megadeth releases. It might not be as technical as it's predecessor, but it show us that even though Dave replaced half the line-up, he was still able to maintain the now trademarked Megadeth sound. I must admit that Chuch was probably the least successful drummer for the band. But Jeff Young does a fine job as the second guitarist. The cover art is probably the worst this band ever did though.....
The 2004 version comes with 4 bonus tracks. All 4 are song from the album, but these are the Paul Lani mixes of the songs. After the success of "Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?" it was a no-brainer for Dave to bring in Paul once more. But he was not pleased with Paul's mix, so he eventually brought in Michael Wagener to finish the album. So here we get a glimpse of what could have been. The sound on the original mix is very "spacey". It sounds like the songs were recorded in a big hangar. Especially the drums sound like he is sitting alone in a huge room, banging along to the song.


Fun facts: Chuck Behler was Gar Samuleson's drum tech before he joined as a member of Megadeth. He would eventually loose his place in the band to his own drum tech, Nick Menza!

Killer tracks: Set The World Afire, Mary Jane, In My Darkest Hour, Liar

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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:18 am

Chris Poland was the best guitarist to play in Megadeth.
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:43 am

xyz wrote:
Chris Poland was the best guitarist to play in Megadeth.


He's one helluva guitar player but like I've said before, I HATE HIS TONE!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:18 pm

He's good but as for metal, i'll take Marty and Dave.
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:44 pm

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He's good but as for metal, i'll take Marty and Dave.


Its like I dont even have to post when you're around cool
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:47 pm

xyz wrote:
Chris Poland was the best guitarist to play in Megadeth.


I agree with this as well. His tone is "odd", but I would take his very inventive playing over Friedman's "wank fest style" any day of the week.

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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:02 pm

Chris Poland is an excellent guitarist but I guess I prefer the wank fest style of Marty Friedman.
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:34 pm

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Chris Poland is an excellent guitarist but I guess I prefer the wank fest style of Marty Friedman.


Laughing very hard

I knew someone would call me out on that one. LOL

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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:10 am

Does anybody like Mustaine's leadwork ?

hear lots of folks saying this dude or that dude but not much regarding the red headed guy Razz

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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:37 am

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Does anybody like Mustaine's leadwork ?

hear lots of folks saying this dude or that dude but not much regarding the red headed guy Razz


Love it, he does basically all of the leads on SFSGSW actually.
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:49 am

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James B. wrote:
Does anybody like Mustaine's leadwork ?

hear lots of folks saying this dude or that dude but not much regarding the red headed guy Razz


Love it, he does basically all of the leads on SFSGSW actually.


100% agree, also interesting to note that for a so called ego maniac, he does not mind sharing the spotlight with guitarist that maybe even more skilled then he is.
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:31 am

Wankfest? Marty? Man, there may be some complexity to his playing but there's nothing wasted there.
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:14 am

Marty was a fine compliment to Dave :metal:


I like "So far.." seems we are getting ahead of the program so to speak.

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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:15 am

James B. wrote:
Does anybody like Mustaine's leadwork ?

hear lots of folks saying this dude or that dude but not much regarding the red headed guy Razz



Definitely, he is my all time fave and he really adds a lot to the major pentatonic scale. The way he uses his thumb is also cool.
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:40 pm

James B. wrote:
Does anybody like Mustaine's leadwork ?

hear lots of folks saying this dude or that dude but not much regarding the red headed guy Razz


I love his lead work, he is one hell of a player.
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:37 am

To weigh in on the album, I think that it is very underrated. My favorite tracks are "Set The World Afire" and "502."
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:13 pm

Wow DC your really taking your time with this thread I thought youd be up to Youthanasia by now lol! . Good thing I forgot all about it cause im up to speed with the thread.

Anyhoo.... This is a great album. In no way is it as good as the first 2. That was just a completely different band for those 2 albums, now with SFSGSW its almost like a start over. Gone are a lot of the things that made Megadeth stand out from all the other Thrash bands, but they still seemed to make the album work. I believe Anarchy In The UK was one of the first songs I heard from them or maybe it wasnt I really forget., but I do remember hearing it and liking it and I couldnt wait to get this album. Now im kind of sick of that song. I dont hate it I just over played it over the years.

The only songs I dont really like off this are the first 2 tracks. I dont know why but I just dont care for them and I like the second half of the album more than the first.

Interesting fact from the remixed versions... In the liner notes Dave wrote how they recorded the drums for this album by not using cymbals while the drums were being played. They would go back and place all the cymbal hits after they were done.

To me that just seems stupid as hell but then again you dont have to worry having to reply the whole song over again. Since there was no cymbals you wouldnt have to worry about the ringing if something needed to be cut. I can see it that way but realistically its just a stupid idea and I always wondered why the drums sounded funny to me and thats why. The cymbals hits sound fake.

Thats all I got..

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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:31 pm

So Far So Good So What is really good but not up tp snuff as it's predecessor. Still,very enjoyable. My faves are Into the Lungs of Hell/Set the World On Fire,In My Darkest Hour,and Mary Jane. I find it ironic that Megadeth (with all they were into at that time) did a song about drunk driving (502).
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:45 pm

And moving on.........
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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:31 pm


Rust In Peace (Released September 1990)

The end of the So Far, So Good...So What! tour much like the Peace Sells tour before it was a complete enema smurf poo and a personal drug infused war against band members. After their appearance at the Monsters Of Rock show in the UK Mustaine quickly fired Chuck and Jeff and cancelled the Austrailan leg of the tour. With Nick Menza already waiting in the wings as Chuck Behler's drum tech (Much like Chuck with Gar before him) he was brought in for the first time in 1989 to record the cover of No More Mr. Nice Guy for the Shocker soundtrack. Unable to find a suitable guitarist in time this track was actually recorded as a three piece band. After crashing into an unmarked police car while searching for a new guitarist that summer, Mega Dave was arrested for a DUI and forced to enter court appointed rehab. After his new found sobriety the search for a new guitarist began once again during which everyone from Eric Meyer of Dark Angel to Jeff Loomis of Sanctuary was auditioned. Loomis initially rejected due to his age, mentioned the gig to Marty Friedman (of Cacophony at the time) who went and auditioned and after an image change was officially made a member in February 1990 and recording began. The band being completely sober while recording this time made a huge difference and dispersed problems caused by drug use in the past while producer Mike Clink became the first producer to work with Megadeth throughout a whole album without being fired. Rust In Peace featured
a much tighter and polished Megasound that was more complex and more progressive than previous albums. The only problem with this is it comes off as arena thrash almost at times with the sound being more accessible than previous Deth albums (with some wankery and that damn “power sound” added slightly by Friedman), but still manages to kick ass and ranges as their 4th great album in a row. The lyrics found here also deal with more socially aware concepts and paint some great pictures whether it be about aliens, wars, or Dave meets girl, Dave can't have girl, so Dave kills girl.

Holy Wars...The Punishment Due: Starting off with a more harmonic but still brutal thrashing riff we jump into one of the best tracks on the album, a multi parted diverse metal epic, which manages to show Megadeth's evolution, yet still capture the attitude and part of the sound of their former days. Along with some GREAT solo trading again, Friedman and Mustaine thrash in unison quite well with each other, despite Friedman's more wanking tendencies which are largely left out here. With lyrics centered around the conflict in northern Ireland, it shows more socially aware concepts instead of the drug fueled rage Mustaine used to spew forth. The ending piece of the song of is just crushing after somewhat of a slowdown in the mid part with two eyeball bursting solos thrown in, Megadeth meant serious business once again.

Hangar 18: One of the best tracks on the album with a pretty neat lyrical concept about aliens being hidden by the government in America. Quite the fretboard burning song (despite a mid paced opening) with some great snarling vocals from Dave. a groovy rhythm section, and some great leads with some beautiful solos (and a few face melting shreds at the end) whether they're in the mid paced middle section or the crushing speed jam at the end.

Take No Prisoners: Taking the elements employed by parts of the previous two tracks and just shoving them down into one crushing speed demon of a song, this is one of my favorite tracks from the Megadudes. With some bad ass gang vocals, a great bass drop/solo, pounding skins, and overall spitting unchecked aggression this literally knocks you flat and leaves you wanting more. This songs more brutal/simplistic approach is the beauty of it as opposed to focusing on more overly progressive elements, its good to see Megadeth is still pissed off enough to toss one like this at you. Not to mention, those skull crushing solos are firmly intact.

Five Magics: Basically an amalgam of the albums first three tracks, but sticking mainly to the epic formula laid down by Holy Wars unfortunately its this songs downfall though. With an asskicker of a chorus and some brain melting riffs and leads the changes come too frequently to focus on individual elements and when it does manage to stay the same (albeit with some great commentary and fills delivered by Menza which is what saves that part) it plods on too long between the different leads and just manages to lose your attention somewhere.

Poison Was The Cure: Sheer proof that they did indeed listen to Diamond Head every day for inspiration while making this album (actually if you pay close attention many riffs here are NWOBHM sounding in nature, but this particular track takes it to the nth degree). Starting with quite the ominous bass riff that comes at you like a wall of sound (especially when the riffs kick in) it's a pretty good song, albeit overlooked, that kicks it into overdrive early and stays there. It almost sounds like a lost track from either KIMB or Peace Sells. One of my personal favorites from this disc.

Lucretia: Ah, once again we hit on one of this album's flaws, that flaw being repeating itself, despite it being a worthwhile song on its own with a stomping mid paced groove, it calls on Hangar 18 and Take No Prisoners a bit too close for comfort at times. As for what it makes worthwhile the groove of the bass and drum fills here work in perfect harmony with a nice meaty riff that just demands you get up and do the blender with your buddy or otherwise thrash him around a bit. As for the repetition once it gets past the stomp your ass into a mudhole section you jump into the harmonic leads (which on their own are pretty good) but as a whole it sounds like a rejected piece from Hangar. Which, despite some great performances being given manages to keep it from being a classic (albeit a very memorable track).

Tornado Of Souls: One of the albums best tracks, this manages to marry the two styles Deth was dicking around with here rather than switch between the two rather schizophrenically, pretty much a perfect performance and a big showcase of everything thats great about this album and line up. The leads in this song are absolutely killer. Instant classic.

Dawn Patrol: A lot of people really seem to hate this song and just state it as a time filler (which it actually probably is) but it's a GOOD time filler. A nice plodding bass line along with a pretty cool yet different vocal style (reportedly he created this tone by drawing air over his bottom lip while biting down on his upper teeth) which actually reminds me quite well of being in high school and trying to talk while still holding in your bowl hit actually. But it fits the cryptic lyrics of an after nuclear holocaust landscape quite well.

Rust In Peace...Polaris: A more straightforward tune than some of the rest of the album, it closes it with some more threatening aggression with a pretty heavy groove and some great leads. Lyrics once again dealing with nuclear war, more specifically the Polaris missile, it works well as a closer that makes you wish the album was longer.


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PostSubject: Re: MEGADETH- Discography   Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:32 pm

Sorry guys, Ive been sick for the past few days and didn't feel like posting it.
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