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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:30 pm

As I've said on similar threads involving the RnR HOF, this organization is pretty worthless. It's a business plain and simple and is going to induct whoever they think the public at large likes with the occasional less well known artist inducted to supposedly keep up their "street-cred".
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:06 pm

it's always funny when people go on about how worthless the RnR HoF is, yet spend so much time complaining about the choices they make. who cares really?

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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:32 pm

ABBA sucks.



that is all.
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:37 pm

How do some of these artists get considered Rock n Roll? Donna Summer, LL Cool J...

It pisses me off how the obvious choices take many years to get inducted but non-rock gets in easy.
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:14 pm

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Just announced: There are 12 nominees up for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum.
They are: ABBA, Darlene Love, Donna Summer, Genesis, Jimmy Cliff, KISS, Laura Nyro, LL Cool J, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Chantels, The Hollies, and The Stooges.
Only five will be selected to be inducted on March 15 at the Waldorf Astoria in New York City. To be eligible, an act must have released its first single or album at least 25 years prior to the year of nomination. This year’s nominees had to release their first single no later than 1984.
Which five do you think will make the cut?

If it was my ballot, it would be:

1. KISS
2. Genesis
3. The Hollies
4. The Stooges
5. The Chantels

I think with Metallica's induction, and the fact that they more or less headlined this past year's nominees, I think KISS will keep the momentum going. That being said, I think this means the Stooges have no shot this year. I think Genesis is a shoe-in, even if most within the committee doesn't know that Peter Gabriel was the original front man. I love the Hollies, and I have a soft spot for the Chantels, who have one of my favorite Doo Wop hits of all time, in that of "Look In My Eyes".

Who it will probably be:

1. ABBA
2. Genesis
3. Donna Summer
4. The Hollies
5. KISS ( I think the committee will do the right thing, but KISS will be the odd band out, if someone like RHCP gets in, WHICH...would be a travesty since this is their first year of eligibility.

On a side note, if Donna Summer and KISS are actually inducted together, maybe Gene and Donna can get up and sing "Burning Up With Fever".
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:20 pm

I like that KISS, Genesis, and the Stooges are up, and I can even understand RHCP, even though I'm not much of a fan. Hell, I even kinda get ABBA's nomination.




....but LL Cool J? Didn't Mama say to knock him out?
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:36 pm

I think the Stooges will get in, because of they are major influence and now adays music critics fall all over themselves to praise Iggy Pop and his Stooges.

I personally think that Iggy Pop (with or without the Stooges) should have been in the Hall a long time ago.

For ratings they really need KISS and Genesis, because not alot of folks are going to tune to see Donna Summer or LL Cool J.
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:02 pm

thejokeriv wrote:
Just announced: There are 12 nominees up for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum.
They are: ABBA, Darlene Love, Donna Summer, Genesis, Jimmy Cliff, KISS, Laura Nyro, LL Cool J, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Chantels, The Hollies, and The Stooges.
Only five will be selected to be inducted on March 15 at the Waldorf Astoria in New York City. To be eligible, an act must have released its first single or album at least 25 years prior to the year of nomination. This year’s nominees had to release their first single no later than 1984.
Which five do you think will make the cut?

Gotta give KISS their props so theyd get my vote, Genesis, RHCP, The Chantels and the Stooges
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:25 pm

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Laura Nyro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Nyro

Hmmmmmm, considdering the list of the folks that are NOT in the RnR HoF yet, is this gal really worthy?


If i was drinking coffee i would sprayed it all over my keyboard.

Should she be in? Yes, Yes and Yes.

Personally one of thee greatest artists ever, in my top 5 for sure. Her music is like the break and accelerator pushed at the same time!


And say what you want about Donna Summer people, but she changed music forever with one song...........




Took German "Metal Machine Music" (Krautrock) and made it sexy and danceable, paving the way for disco, electronic, dance, trance, house music etc.
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:51 am

NO RUSH NOMINATION...... AGAIN.....










now that I got that out of my system back to our regularly scheduled program.....
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:19 am

Anyone think Blue Oyster Cult should get in?
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:23 am

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductions might be a joke, but the actual museum itself is probably the greatest thing that I've ever seen, twice. Both times there I spent from open to close and still didn't see everything.
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:58 am

none of it is a joke. some just like to whine because their fave bands aren't as worshipped as they'd like to believe. rock n' roll covers a very wide spectrum. metal & hard rock is only a very small part.

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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:32 am

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And say what you want about Donna Summer people, but she changed music forever with one song...........






Don't forget "Love To Love Ya Baby." GAWD that song should be in every porn film.

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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:08 am

I have to take rp's word on Donna Summer, not a fan and I do not know enough about her music, and what impact it has had made.

MC666 has a point in regards to when he states:

" none of it is a joke. some just like to whine because their fave bands aren't as worshipped as they'd like to believe. rock n' roll covers a very wide spectrum. metal & hard rock is only a very small part. "

What gets to me, is not the fact that for example Alice Cooper or Deep Purple had not been inducted or even nominated to Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, but snobbery of some of the critics who get to make the decision who is worthy to get in or not.

I am not huge fan of Abba but I can recognize the cultural impact they have made, but to not nominate a band simply because they do not like them. Dave Marsh has said many times he would do anything in his power to not allow KISS into the hall, so what if you don't like them, did they or did they not make an impact ?
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:42 am

manny wrote:
For ratings they really need KISS and Genesis, because not alot of folks are going to tune to see Donna Summer or LL Cool J.

Exactly. They generally try to get one "superstar" act in to pull in viewers, although I don't think Genesis necessarily has that kind of pull right now. I think it comes down to KISS and the Chili Peppers. I wish I could say that reason will prevail and KISS will make it in but considering the anti-KISS bias of the committee it doesn't look good.

ABBA will make my mom happy at least Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:18 am

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I have to take rp's word on Donna Summer, not a fan and I do not know enough about her music, and what impact it has had made.


David Bowie keeps trotting out the story that when he was recording the "Berlin Trilogy", Brian Eno comes running in saying "I've heard the future". Plays Donna Summer's "I Feel Love" and says this single will change the sound of club music for 15 years!

Turns out Eno was being conservative, 32 years and counting. From Blondie to Madonna, New Order to Aphex Twin and so on.
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:28 am

There is a difference between these so called artists getting inducted into this "Rock" hall of fame and real rock bands that are long over due. When you are reaching to the furthest outskirts from under the so called rock umbrella and ignoring the true rock bands that define the genre there is a problem.
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:34 am

When a artist like say "Seal" gets in before a band like Deep Purple there is a problem with what is considered rock and what is actually a band that defines rock.


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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:07 am

mc666 wrote:
none of it is a joke. some just like to whine because their fave bands aren't as worshipped as they'd like to believe. rock n' roll covers a very wide spectrum. metal & hard rock is only a very small part.




While you are right in some aspects.......let me straigten some things out


LL Cool J is NOT Rock.....nor is it Roll. Nothing about his music can be related to anything Rock N Roll. Rock N Roll/Hard Rock/Heavy Metal is a genre.....not another word for "music".
And even in the field of Rock N Roll, some of the bands inducted before others are just dumb.
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:06 pm

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MetalGuy71 wrote:
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Laura Nyro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Nyro

Hmmmmmm, considdering the list of the folks that are NOT in the RnR HoF yet, is this gal really worthy?


If i was drinking coffee i would sprayed it all over my keyboard.

Should she be in? Yes, Yes and Yes.

Personally one of thee greatest artists ever, in my top 5 for sure. Her music is like the break and accelerator pushed at the same time!


And say what you want about Donna Summer people, but she changed music forever with one song...........

I agree that she should definitely be in. I didn't have her in my top 5, because I think that Donna is a shoe in whether it be this year or the following year. There weren't many disco acts that came out of the 70's unscathed, but she was one of them. That genre ruined many a career, but she persevered, and even had a few songs chart in the 80's. I would agree with your assessment on the song "I Love You". Talk about a blue print for what would become house music (not something I really get into, but Donna could be considered responsible for that sound). I'm a bigger fan of songs such as "Heaven Knows" or "Macarthur Park".
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:09 pm

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Don't forget "Love To Love Ya Baby." GAWD that song should be in every porn film.

...a song that Donna hasn't performed for years, due to her "Born Again" status, I believe.
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:13 pm

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Don't forget "Love To Love Ya Baby." GAWD that song should be in every porn film.

...a song that Donna hasn't performed for years, due to her "Born Again" status, I believe.

True, but I'd bet that song is responsible for almost as many baby conceptions as "The Best of Barry White." Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:15 pm

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metalinmyveins wrote:
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Don't forget "Love To Love Ya Baby." GAWD that song should be in every porn film.

...a song that Donna hasn't performed for years, due to her "Born Again" status, I believe.

True, but I'd bet that song is responsible for almost as many baby conceptions as "The Best of Barry White."

What about all the baby makin' song by KISS? Makin' Love, Uh! All Night, Deuce, etc, etc........
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PostSubject: Re: The Joke known as the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame annouce nominees   Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:17 pm

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What about all the baby makin' song by KISS? Makin' Love, Uh! All Night, Deuce, etc, etc........

Tha ladies don't like KISS. They like Barry White.



Ooooohhhh baby.

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