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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:40 pm

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KAIZUKO-BAN was, as far as I know, never released on CD using that name. I have a German reissue from 1992, with the name "Live In Japan". It's a great live EP, and I wish they would have released an entire concert.


My CD copy is titled 'Live in Japan' too. Actually I think you scored it for me kmorg. headbanger


Yes, I did! Yay, me! happy

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:43 pm

There is a 2007 Japanese CD pressing of Kaizoku-Ban, but I haven't found it for a decent price. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:42 pm

I have Kaizuko-Ban on CD (Live In Japan) & Vinyl, it's a nice little EP for collectors like myself.

I really like Russian Roulette, it's heavy and it rocks! I must say though they did soun a little burnt out by this point but still one great album.
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:53 pm

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I think the main reason that RUSSIAN ROULETTE was ignored at the time of its release (1986) was because the metal audience was beginning to splinter. One half of the crowd was in the midst of full-on Thrash Mania and the other half was getting into the hairspray/lite metal scene, therefore traditional bands like Accept that were too heavy for the hair metal crowd but not fast/brutal enough for the thrash crowd were beginning to get brushed aside.


Excellent point FF, I think this is also limited the success of Armored Saint, their seemed to be no place for traditional metal bands at this point.
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:59 pm

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I think the main reason that RUSSIAN ROULETTE was ignored at the time of its release (1986) was because the metal audience was beginning to splinter. One half of the crowd was in the midst of full-on Thrash Mania and the other half was getting into the hairspray/lite metal scene, therefore traditional bands like Accept that were too heavy for the hair metal crowd but not fast/brutal enough for the thrash crowd were beginning to get brushed aside.


Excellent point FF, I think this is also limited the success of Armored Saint, their seemed to be no place for traditional metal bands at this point.


And during that Cold War time period, no red-blooded American was purchasing anything with "Russian" in it's name. Dang pinkos.

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:04 am

Gotta get me "Russian Roulette" and put some ears to it.

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:06 pm

EAT THE HEAT (1989)






U.S RELEASE

1. X-T-C
2. Prisoner
3. Love Sensation
4. Chain Reaction
5. D-Train
6. Generation Clash
7. Turn The Wheel
8. Mistreated
9. Stand 4 What U R
10. Hellhammer
11. Break The Ice



EURO RELEASE

1. X-T-C
2. Generation Clash
3. Chain Reaction
4. Love Sensation
5. Turn The Wheel
6. Hellhammer
7. Prisoner
8. I Can’t Believe In You
9. Mistreated
10. Stand 4 What U R
11. Break The Ice
12. D-Train


I won't spend alot of time reviewing this album because I'm pretty convinced of my opinion of it. Accept really lost their way in 1989 and decided to switch gears and make a REALLY commercial metal album. Thank goodness UDO left because this album would be even worse with him on it...and that's not a dig on UDO by any means.

With the new direction, the band needed a new frontman. Enter David Reece from American band Bangalore Choir. Ugh. I think David Reece gets a bad rap for this album, but his performance is stellar. In fact, the whole band plays well, but there is nothing original on this album. This album sounds very forced to me. The power and emotion that filled the band's earlier albums is replaced with a souless, overproduced sound that has nothing unique to offer to the listener. In fact, I can't even think of a song that I like enough to name. Nothing that makes me want to listen to it more than once. After the CD stops spinning, I don't remember what I was listening to for the last 40 minutes. UGH.

This album is typical second or third tier American commercial metal. It sounds like the band is TRYING to sound heavy. Accept never had to do that in the past, they were naturally heavy. The signature guitar sound of Wolf Hoffman is gone and replaced with a cookie cutter generic sound. To top it off, the drums sound VERY mechanical. Almost like a drum machine. UGH.

If the album wasn't bad enough, the commercial metal boat had already sailed away by the time Accept wanted to board. This may have worked 2 years earlier, but by the time 1989 rolled around, this kind of metal was kind of old hat in the U.S.

Possibly the band were taking a page from the playbook of fellow German band, Victory, by deciding to dilute their sound to appeal to a wider audience. Victory did it well, Accept....not so much. Just listen to Victory's "Culture Killed The Native" and you'll hear how this type of metal is supposed to sound.

Unless you are an Accept completist, I would definitely steer clear of "Eat The Heat".

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:47 pm

EAT THE HEAT is definitely the red headed stepkid of the Accept catalog. My first exposure to the album was seeing the video for "Generation Clash" on MTV and though I didn't think it sounded much like Accept, I still remember thinking "Hmm, OK, that's a pretty decent song." I love the rumbling bass in that one and the sinister voice hissing "Generation....claaaash..." However, David Reece's goofy a$$ white boy dance moves in the video provided lots of unintentional comedy.

After that brief sample I resisted buying the album till I could find it cheap so it had been out for about a year when I scored a cassette at a record store in NYC for about three bucks. For that price, it wasn't a bad commercial/hard rock album. It's just not an Accept album. In addition to "Generation Clash" I also dig "Turn the Wheel," "Hellhammer" and "D-Train."

I read an interview with Udo years ago where he said that he was recording his solo debut (ANIMAL HOUSE) in the same studio at the same time Accept were there doing EAT THE HEAT. That must've been awkward as hell. (Haha.) Udo said Accept's progress was very slow and he could tell the band must've already known that they'd made a huge mistake, none of the Accept guys were happy with the way the album was turning out. Considering that ANIMAL HOUSE came out in '87 and EAT THE HEAT didn't see the light of day till '89, Accept must've been stuck in the studio a lot longer than Udo was. If you listen carefully to "D-Train" (and I think possibly "HellHammer," I forget now) you can hear Udo lending some back up vox/screams to the choruses.

If memory serves, Accept broke up following a disastrous run of dates in the U.S. opening for W.A.S.P.'s HEADLESS CHILDREN tour.

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:54 pm

Accept's worse album but this is not the fault of David Reese, IMO David Resse has cool raspy voice and has a incredible range as a vocalist. That being said this album does not really like Accept and most of the songs are forgettable.

It starts out promising 'X-T-C' which is very good opening track, and like FF I also like 'Generation Clash' and 'Turn the Wheel Around' but rest of the songs are forgettable.

I also do not mind 'Prisoner' which is not a bad song but could have been written by any band.

Apparently the tour was a disaster due to the band and David Reese not getting along and this album and tour would see Accept calling it a day for a few years.
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:01 pm



Still a cool song, but the cheez factor in this video is off the charts...

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:30 pm

"Russian Roulette" is another awesome record. Heavier and less commercial than it's predecessor.

I don't have "Eat The Heat", but from the sound of things, I'm not missing an awful lot.
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:40 pm

I don't have Russian Roulette or Eat The Heat - I will avoid eat the heat! Another interesting fact is that the songs that appear on Udo's Animal House where originally written for Accept's follow up to Russian Roulette. The band (mostly Wolf) decided the band needed to go in a more commercial direction and convinced the rest of the band to fire Udo (how do you fire Udo? that is just insane!!!) because his voice didn't fit the hair metal scene. So, Udo went solo and took the songs with him since Accept weren't going to use them. It made for an easy first solo album, the songs were written and Udo just needed to hire a band. Animal House is the album Accept would have made.
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:47 pm

I have always wondered about UDO's first solo album, I remember buying it and song writting credits reading all songs written by ACCEPT + Deaffy ( I think that is how you spell her name). I thought that was strange since UDO had just left Accept.
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:17 pm

Eat the Heat was Accept following the advice of others and dumping Udo for a more commercially acceptable singer. Udo went off on his own and recorded the excellent Animal House CD. 'Eat the Heat' is actually not as bad as most people make it out to be. 'X-T-C' is a great song that has been re-recorded by U.D.O. Had this album had Udo singing on it, I think people would have loved it. As it stands, no Udo, no Accept.

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:29 pm

I owned Eat the Heat for all of about 15 minutes. About a year ago, I found a copy at the local Good Will shop along with a few other discs for a buck apeice. I played it once, then traded it to Spec for some magic beans. I think I got the better deal on that one.

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:08 pm

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I owned Eat the Heat for all of about 15 minutes. About a year ago, I found a copy at the local Good Will shop along with a few other discs for a buck apeice. I played it once, then traded it to Spec for some magic beans. I think I got the better deal on that one.


Did the beans give you gas?

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:23 pm

I haven't gotten anything past Russian Roulette except an EP which I'll post on when we get there.
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:18 pm

Accept sans Udo was not a success. In came two American newbies, most noticeably David Reece (Bangalore Choir, Sircle Of Silence) on vocals. But I'm not sure he was the real "problem" with this disc, although he has in hindsight gotten all the blame. The fact is that he is a great singer, and he fits the music on the disc perfectly. The problem is that the music doesn't sound like Accept. If the album had a different name on the cover, this disc might have been a stellar debut from a new band. A band which sound was just right at the time of the release of this album. 'Eat The Heat' delivers some solid melodic metal, but so few of the tracks give us the idea that we're listening to one of the classic German heavy metal acts. It sounds like an American band, with power ballads and all. "X-T-C" has later been "covered" by U.D.O., and during the reunion with Accept and Udo in the 90's, the band re-recorded "Generation Clash". The album came with a different cover in Europe, and an extra track.

Killer tracks: X-T-C, D-Train, Generation Clash, Mistreated, Hellhammer

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:09 am

Don't have (or want) Kaizuko-ban and need Russian Roulette. I have heard T.V War and Monsterman and think both songs are great.
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:07 pm



STAYING A LIFE (LIVE) 1990



EURO-VERSION 2-CD


1. Metal Heart
2. Breaker
3. Screaming For A Love Bite
4. Up To The Limit
5. Living For Tonight
6. Princess Of The Dawn
7. Neon Nights
8. Burning

1. Head Over Heels
2. Guitar Solo Wolf
3. Restless And Wild
4 Son Of A smurfette
5. London Leather Boys
6. Love Child
7. Flash Rockin’ Man
8. Dogs On Leads
9. Fast As A Shark
10. Balls To The Wall
11. Outro (Bound To Fail)



U.S.-VERSION 1 CD


1. Metal Heart
2. Breaker
3. Screaming For A Love Bite
4. Up To The Limit
5. Living For Tonight
6. Princess Of The Dawn
7. Guitar Solo Wolf
8. Restless And Wild
9. Son Of A smurfette
10. London Leather Boys
11. Love Child
12. Flash Rockin’ Man
13. Dogs On Leads
14. Fast As a Shark
15. Balls To The Wall



"Staying A Life" was Accept's first official full length live album. After the atrocity (sure I'm exaggerating) that was "Eat The Heat" the record label needed to recoup SOMETHING. Enter the live album. I'll throw the buzz phrase of the board in there to describe this. "Staying A Life" is indeed a "Cash grab"


Not much can be said about "Staying A Life". It's pretty unremarkable while at the same time remarkable. If this is indeed how tight Accept was during the Metal Heart tour, then I am thouroughly impressed. Virtually squeaky clean and free of noticeable errors, this album sounds alot like the studio versions with some live crowd noises thrown in. Definitely a good live album, but hardly essential.
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:46 pm

A good listen. I was rockin' this on the way to work at 5AM this morning and it sounded great.

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:50 pm

I love this live album and I think the versions of the older songs such as 'Breaker' and 'Son of smurfette' sound 10x better than the studio versions and I am very impressed by the drumming of Stefan Kaufman.

The performances are more aggressive and UDO sounds amazing, I know my good friend Spec feels it is not essential but in my humble opinion if you are Accept fan it is very essential release.
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:51 pm

Never bought this one, due to my lack of interest in most live albums...

Does anyone know if this recording is from the same show(s) used on the KAIZOKU-BAN EP?

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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:59 pm

Kaizoku Ban was supposedly recorded in Nagoya, Japan and Staying A Life was recored in Osaka. But I'm sure the dates were just days apart from each other.
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PostSubject: Re: ACCEPT - Discography   Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:58 pm



OBJECTION OVERRULED (1993)


1. OBJECTION OVERRULED
2. I DON'T WANNA BE LIKE YOU
3. PROTECTORS OF TERROR
4. SLAVES TO METAL
5. ALL OR NOTHING
6. BULLETPROOF
7. AMAMOS LA VIDA
8. SICK DIRTY AND MEAN
9. DONATION
10. JUST BY MY OWN (INSTRUMENTAL)
11. THIS ONE'S FOR YOU

By 1993, Accept had been on hiatus since late '89 and Udo had been doing (excellent) solo albums since '87. Although the UDO albums were filling a niche that had been vacated by Accept, the albums still weren't the "true" Accept. The fans demanded the return of the band that had produced that great music in the early to mid 80's. So after some discussions, the "classic" lineup of Udo, Hoffman, Baltes, and Kaufmann was reunited. The band had decided to stick to the single guitarist dynamic during this reunion, for whatever reason I am not privy to. But the strong foundation was there for the band to make another classic album.


1993's "Objection Overruled" is a classic Accept album, in my opinion. All the elements are there. Driving riffs, throaty vocals from Udo, and great songwriting by the band and longtime collaborator Deaffy. Listening to this album it seems as if the band never stopped and "Eat The Heat" is quickly forgotten. Decidedly more uptempo than "Russian Roulette" but not quite as energetic as "Balls To The Wall" or "Restless and Wild", "Objection Overruled" is chock full of memorable songs that stay with you after you hear them. The title track, "Slaves To Metal", "Protectors Of Terror", "Bulletproof".....heck all the songs on this record are killer! Everything that made the band such a worldwide success in the 80's is alive and well on this album.


I can honestly say that "Objection Overruled" is one of (if not THE) best "comeback" albums ever. At the very least it's my 2nd favorite. If you can get your hands on this one, then I highly suggest that you do. You'll thank me. Smile
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