The Rapture stuff is from 1985 through 1989. I have a total of four demos of Rapture.

I found out there are two different versions of Vacation from Hell floating around, which I never knew about. The 1988 demo is where the band was obviously crossing over from traditional heavy metal to thrash. The 1989 demo is pure speed metal/thrash.

Vacation from Hell (1988)
Locked in Chains 3:05
Take A Look 3:50
Crak This 3:39
Vacation from Hell 2:24
Worldly Rules 4:35
Bunky Joe 0:48
Ritual Cries 2:19
Livin' the Lie 4:04
The Ballad 0:08

Vacation from Hell (1989)
America 4:33
Suicide 3:46
Murder for a Prophet 3:55
Locked in Chains 3:15
Forgotten Faces 4:24
The Ballad 4:26 (note a completely different song from '88 The Ballad. Need to ask Paul about this)
Deception 5:29

Then there are two different self titled demos. These demos are more straight forward heavy metal and a few US Power Metal songs.

Rapture 1985
01 - Rapture - Death by the Sword 7:32
02 - Rapture - Make Your Move 5:43
03 - Rapture - Last Chance 3:47
04 - Rapture - As You Are 4:55
05 - Rapture - Garden of Gesthemane 8:45

Rapture 1987
Rapture - 01 Death by the Sword 7:51
Rapture - 02 Give Your Life 4:26
Rapture - 03 Last Chance 4:02
Rapture - 04 Fall of the Dragon 7:57
Rapture - 05 Make Your Move 6:01
Rapture - 06 Worthy Is The Lamb 4:10

Pardon the ignorance, but can I assume that Rature was the band's name before they became the Moshketeers?

As for your other question Ult, I personally would prefer an all music release as opposed to a music disc and dvd. I hardly, if ever, watch those dvd bonus discs. And keep the Rapture stuff as a seperate release from the Moshketeers material.

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Well, the Rapture recordings are not pristine, that's for sure. They were 80's demo recordings and sound like it. I'm sure mastering could improve them, though nothing will make them stack up to today's standards. This was the days of recording directly to tape and bumping down tracks to make room for overdubs.

As for the material itself, I like both the old school metal sound and the speed metal/thrash stuff. The early Rapture stuff is a far departure from the thrash of The Moshketeers, thus the name change. However, the 1989 demo might as well have been a Moshketeers release. The 88 demo is definitely the crossover demo.

I would like to have 2 separate releases; 1 for Moshketeers and 1 for Rapture.

I say just stick with the music. I like the band, but would probably watch the DVD once or twice. In the interest of Bill's marriage, I suggest just the one release.

Is there enough room on one disc for ALL of the Rapture stuff? Thats the only part I dont really dig about having the Rapture demos apart of the same set as moshketeers....I know stuff is going to be left out because I'm pretty sure all the demos will not fit on one disc. Know what I'm sayin?

Of the Moshketeers stuff, I am not yet sure how much material we have. I know for a fact I have the 4-song 1996 demo, The Downward Spiral album, and the self titled, 4-song demo from 1989. I'm meeting with Paul this weekend to see what else he has.

If we stuck to just the music, Disc 1 would be all the Moshketeers stuff. Disc 2 would probably be the Rapture stuff, but would be a limited edition, pre-order run, not unlike we did with Puppet of Destruction and Fatal Delay.

I'd like to see 'em released separately for each band. I'd buy both.

It would be cool to have what's recorded of the unreleased Moshketeers album as bonus tracks.

However they decide to do it Im getting it for sure.But Im with most of the guys here on having two seperate releases.

I'm just not sure the quality of the demo material will warrant it's own release. The 80's demo material is...well, 80's demo material. I doubt anyone will have a problem with the production of the Downward Spiral album. It's well recorded and sounds good even before remastering. However, even with mastering I think the demo material will be something only hardcore fans and collectors are going to enjoy. That's why I'd like to see it released as the second bonus disc.

Also, we are looking for someone to do the cover art, if anyone is interested or knows someone interested. We are looking for something very old school thrash looking, not unlike Into the Pit or the Ed Repka covers. Honestly, however, there is no money in this project. I'm putting it all together and not making a dime. So anyone interested would have to just want to do it for the recognition or for a few free copies.

ult

I would buy their Downward Spiral album but i doubt i'd get the demo stuff as a seperate release. I think the demo stuff should just be bonus tracks.

They remind me of that late 80's goodtime thrash... (State of Euphoria) era Anthrax.