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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami

Number of posts: 14692 Age: 40 Registration date: 2007-02-01
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:04 pm | |
| | Quote: | | Roy Orbison also recorded a cover of this song. |
Holy cow! According to our esteemed friend Dr. Wik E. Pedia, ol' Roy was just 1 of 34 artists that have covered that tune, originally written and recorded by another r&b/gospel singer named Chris Kenner back in '62. _________________ A legend in posting since February 1st, 2007
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manny mini boss


Number of posts: 13194 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-08-05
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:06 pm | |
| Like the idea of recording a live album with a new material, but this material sub par Ted Nugent songs, it sounds like left over songs that in some cases do not even sound completed. Other then three songs ULT already mentioned, there is not much to recommend from this Nugent platter, being that it is a Ted Nugent live album the energy level is way up there but the songs are not there. For completeist only. I will spin my vinyl when I get home tonight anyway, since it has been ages since I played this LP |
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ultmetal Administrator


Number of posts: 15773 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:56 pm | |
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manny mini boss


Number of posts: 13194 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-08-05
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:28 pm | |
| Not a bad collection and it sold very well, like ULT stated Epic where trying to cash in on the greatest hits boom of the early 80's which was kicked off by the best selling Aerosmith and Doors comp. I like it and listen to it once in awhile and serves as a good intro to a newbie Ted Nugent fan. |
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami

Number of posts: 14692 Age: 40 Registration date: 2007-02-01
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:23 pm | |
| | Quote: | | I like it and listen to it once in awhile and serves as a good intro to a newbie Ted Nugent fan. |
This was my introduction to Ted. I had the original release without the bonus tracks. I knew of him for years and of course 'Cat Scratch Fever', but never owned anything. I figured this was as good as anywhere to begin. I ditched this one though when I upgraded to the 2-cd Essential Collection. _________________ A legend in posting since February 1st, 2007
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James B. Scurvy Skalliwag

Number of posts: 4637 Age: 46 Registration date: 2008-02-10
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:21 pm | |
| great cover shot of The Nuge the song selection flows pretty well for a comp. _________________  |
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ultmetal Administrator


Number of posts: 15773 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:07 pm | |
| _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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manny mini boss


Number of posts: 13194 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-08-05
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:55 pm | |
| I like this album but not as much as ULT does. it was nice to see the return of Derek St. Holmes and veteran drummer Carmine Appice on drums. The album has more radio friendly feel to the album, more so then his past albums at this point. Produced by Nugent himself, the songs such as 'No No No' and 'Tailgunner' are great songs and if this album had been released in 1984 or 85, then I am convienced Nugent would have another platinum album on his hands. Some of the tracks IMO do not benefit for this slick production, such as 'Bound and Gagged' which is I take it Nugent's tongue in cheek jab at the departed Carter Presidency in his handling the Iran hostage crisis. 'Fightin' Word' and 'Good and Ready' could have easily fit on his earlier releases, and 'Ebony' is just a silly song. Overall not a bad album but it begins a slide toward not so stellar material and a decline in album sales that would not halt til 'If You Can't Lick 'em...' album. Of course it does not help that Ted Nugent was signed to Atlantic records who did not know how to see heavy metal/hard rock unless the bands name happened to be AC/DC or Led Zeppelin. |
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ultmetal Administrator


Number of posts: 15773 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:54 pm | |
| "Tailgunner" is a song I wish Nugent would resurrect and start performing live again. Of course, without St. Holmes on vocals it may not have the same umph! The song has a similar vibe to Stormtroopin' and Smokescreen IMO. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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manny mini boss


Number of posts: 13194 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-08-05
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:04 pm | |
| I re-listened to the CD last night and it is better than I remembered and the song 'Bound and Gagged' may have a political slant to it but it also has a sense of humor to it.
I like the song 'Ebony' but the lyrics are really silly, granted the lyrics are not meant to be taken seriously plus the song happens to be about Nugent's favorite subjects: chics
Atlantic Records dropped the ball on this album, during the revival of metal this album should have sold better, during this time I believe he was still headlining arenas here and Europe so I really do not get how this album failed commerically. |
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami

Number of posts: 14692 Age: 40 Registration date: 2007-02-01
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:26 pm | |
| That's a lovely set of high heels Ted's sportin' on the cover.  _________________ A legend in posting since February 1st, 2007
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ultmetal Administrator


Number of posts: 15773 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:03 pm | |
| I have a pair of snakeskin boots just like 'em. Use to wear 'em all the time. Wore them only once on stage, then never again. To hard to do windmills and headbang. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami

Number of posts: 14692 Age: 40 Registration date: 2007-02-01
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:16 pm | |
| | ultmetal wrote: | | I have a pair of snakeskin boots just like 'em. Use to wear 'em all the time. Wore them only once on stage, then never again. To hard to do windmills and headbang. |
I still have my black suede cowboys boots, with silver tips, tucked away in the back of the closet. I couldn't imagine trying to wear them these days but then again, I can't imagine ever parting with them either. I guess I'll pass them down to my son when they come back into fashion 20 years from now.  _________________ A legend in posting since February 1st, 2007
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ultmetal Administrator


Number of posts: 15773 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:17 pm | |
| Ted Nugent - Penetrator (Atlantic) 1984 1. "Tied up in Love" (4:24) 2. "(Where Do You) Draw the Line" (3:27) 3. "Knockin' at Your Door" (3:54) 4. "Don't You Want My Love" (3:30) 5. "Go Down Fighting" (4:40) 6. "Thunder Thighs" (4:07) 7. "No Man's Land" (3:24) 8. "Blame It on the Night" (4:11) 9. "Lean Mean R&R Machine" (4:00) 10. "Take Me Home" (5:04) Stuck in the middle of the glossy 80’s metal scene, Ted Nugent now hated the term “heavy metal” and said so in just about every interview he did, especially with the tons of metal magazines he was interviewed in. Ted’s gonzo rock could not be defined by the term. However, there is not doubt that Ted was a bit lost in the crowd by this time. As such, Penetrator sounds like an album of the times, and indeed it was. However, the reviews were relatively postive. I have an old copy of KERRANG with Nugent on the cover and they give the album a killer review. Here was my review from NLTM: This is not Ted Nugent. This was aliens who were pretending to be Ted trying to take over the world with their 80's pop rock crap. It has to be the case because the keyboards drown out the guitars. (NO! Say it ain't so!) Seriously, if it didn't say Ted Nugent on the cover, I never would have guessed it was the Motor City Madman, except for perhaps the five second guitar solo opening. Other than that, where are the gonzo guitar antics? Where is the blazing leads, the extended jam songs, where are the balls? Ahhhhh! Run away, run away! OK, seriously though, there are some redeeming moments on "Penetrator" such as the boogie-rocker "No Man's Land", the Nugent-esque rocker "Thunder Thighs" and the bluesy "Take Me Home". Also, there are some pretty choice licks buried underneath the keyboards on "Tied Up In Love". "Tied Up In Love" is actually a pretty catchy song and should have been a radio hit in '84. Likewise "Draw the Line" is a pretty strong pop rocker, despite the gloss of the recording. This particular song was written by Bryan Adams and songwriter Jim Valance, who has also written some hits for Aerosmith. Vocalist Brian Howe has a strong, slightly raspy voice and sounds great on this 80's sounding pop stuff. Still, this is Ted Nugent. If some of this material had been released under a different band name, such as Ted did only a couple years later with the Damn Yankees, some of these songs could have been hits.
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manny mini boss


Number of posts: 13194 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-08-05
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:31 pm | |
| The first time I saw Ted Nugent live was on this tour. This is the worst Nugent album, IMO. Like you stated aliens most of come down because alot of these songs are watered down pop songs unworthy of the name Nugent. That being said 'Tied Up In Love' is a great song with tons of killer Nugent guitar fills through out the song. Brian Howe, sounds great on the song and this was my introduction to the future Bad Company vocalist. "Thunder Thighs' is a funny song, 'Take Me Home' is another cool mellow tune. 'Where Do You Draw the Line' is horrid and "Lean Mean Rock n Roll Machine' plain out sucks. Ted Nugent did not want to be lumped in with the L.A. glamsters and I have feeling that is why he was so anti-metal at the time, but I am guessing not sure if that is true or not. Ted Nugent, like Aerosmith and Alice Cooper, should have been posed for a major comeback and this album was somewhat success, thankfully since he is a metal artist (despite what he says) and metal fans are as loyal as they come, he still managed a success tour. I am going to spin it again tonight and see if my opinions on certain songs have changed. In the right mood it is ok, but by Nugent standards this album is a huge disappointment. |
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thejokeriv Metal is Forever


Number of posts: 8317 Age: 42 Registration date: 2007-01-23
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:45 pm | |
| I remember when the album was released - the local radio station used to play new albums on Sunday nights. One album was Penetrator, they played it the Sunday before it was released in stores. I, of course, made a cassette tape of it to listen to. I remember thinking it was OK but not great at the time. I have yet to upgrade this one to CD. Thanks for posting clips Ult, now I remember what it sounded like! |
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ultmetal Administrator


Number of posts: 15773 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:32 pm | |
| Ted Nugent - Little Miss Dangerous (Atlantic) 1986 1. "High Heels in Motion" (3:34) 2. "Strangers" (3:45) 3. "Little Miss Dangerous" (4:46) 4. "Savage Dancer" (3:50) 5. "Crazy Ladies" (3:38) 6. "When Your Body Talks" (3:12) 7. "Little Red Book" (3:02) 8. "Take Me Away" (3:00) 9. "Angry Young Man" (3:54) 10. "Painkiller" (5:51) Ted is still dabbling in 80's pop-rock on this platter, but "Little Miss Dangerous" is still 100x better than it's predecessor. At least on this disc, the keyboards aren't mixed above the guitars. As a matter of fact, "Little Miss Dangerous" and "Painkiller" are both Nugent classics. "Little Miss Dangerous," the song, is actually one of my all time Nugent favorites. The song is slow and has a nasty groove to it with some mean guitar solos. I was lucky enough to catch this one live a few times. It's noteworthy that all the good songs on this disc were written by Nugent himself, without the help of Sony's "professional" songwriters. I'd be willing to bet that Sony had a big part in the change in style on these last two albums. Anyhow, I still really enjoy this disc and it does frequent my CD player, despite the fact that it is not on the same level as Nugent's 70's outputs. For a long time this disc was out of print and relatively hard to find, but in 2002 Spitfire Records remastered and re-released all for Atlantic recordings. The logo was changed on the reissue to the classic Nugent logo. Oh, one other thing, there is a hilarious picture of Ted with a mohawk on the inside cover.
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ultmetal Administrator


Number of posts: 15773 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:36 pm | |
| And just for fun, a cool video of Aerosmith and Ted Nugent jamming 'Milk Cow Blues' together at Cal Jam II in 1978. Man, is Tyler wasted in this video. I don't even think he knew that Ted was on the stage.  _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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manny mini boss


Number of posts: 13194 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-08-05
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:40 pm | |
| 'Little Miss Dangerous' is a major improvement over his previous album despite the fact that Nugent is still flirting with the pop metal sound of its day. The title track and 'Painkiller' are classics, and I even like the pop metal songs on this LP. such as 'High Heels In Motion' 'When Your Body Talks' and 'Take Me Away' 'Little Red Book' is not a bad cover tune but maybe a little too poppy, and 'Angry Young Man' is not a bad tune. Not a classic Nugent platter but it is a good album which sold very well, and the title track was used in espiode of Miami Vice where pop metal vocalist had the guest role, and also at this time Ted Nugent played on a different episode of Miami Vice playing a vicious drug dealer. |
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ultmetal Administrator


Number of posts: 15773 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:52 pm | |
| Seems to not be a whole lot of interest in the Nug's catalog at this point besides myself and you manny. I'll give it another day and go on with "If You Can't Lick 'Em" and then Nugent's first concert video "New Year's Eve Whiplash Bash". As a side note: | Quote: |
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1. "I Need Love" (3:18) 2. "Whiskey Woman" (3:51) 3. "Hold On" (3:00) 4. "Sharpshooter" (5:29) 5. "Every Morning" (4:40) 6. "Action" (3:45) 7. "Shy Away" (4:12) 8. "Does It Really Matter?" (4:25) 9. "Spanish Boy" (4:09) 10."Mystery Girl" (3:19)
In 1981, Aerosmith's second guitarist left to persue a solo career. (Albeit a short lived one.) Brad Whitford hooked up with Ted Nugent vocalist/rhythm guitarist Derek St. Holmes. Rounding out the lineup were bassist David Hewett and drummer Steve Pace. Of course everybody, including myself, compared this to Aerosmith and Ted Nugent, but this album is no where near as good as albums like "Rocks," "Toys in the Attic," "Ted Nugent" or "Cat Scratch Fever." That being said, this isn't a bad album either. It is a good collection of arena rock/metal songs with a good amount of commercial hooks. "Sharpshooter" is an exceptional commercial metal song and others like "Whiskey Woman" and "Spanish Boy" are just good rock and roll songs. Probably not an album that would appease the masses, but for Aerosmith and Ted Nugent fans, this album was/is a real treat. |
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manny mini boss


Number of posts: 13194 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-08-05
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:27 pm | |
| That is too bad IMo he is one of the most important and turns out one of the most ignored metal (yes that's right I said metal!) of the 70's. I wonder if his politics have kept him from getting his proper due, I hate his politics but as far as I am concerned that has nothing to do with his music or his standing in METAL history. I feel that Ted Nugent, in terms of American metal, he is important to development of the genre, and should be named along side Aerosmith, Alice Cooper, Kiss, and Van Halen |
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thejokeriv Metal is Forever


Number of posts: 8317 Age: 42 Registration date: 2007-01-23
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:27 pm | |
| | ultmetal wrote: | Seems to not be a whole lot of interest in the Nug's catalog at this point besides myself and you manny.
I'll give it another day and go on with "If You Can't Lick 'Em" and then Nugent's first concert video "New Year's Eve Whiplash Bash".
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 Whitford/St. Holmes (Columbia) 1981
1. "I Need Love" (3:18) 2. "Whiskey Woman" (3:51) 3. "Hold On" (3:00) 4. "Sharpshooter" (5:29) 5. "Every Morning" (4:40) 6. "Action" (3:45) 7. "Shy Away" (4:12) 8. "Does It Really Matter?" (4:25) 9. "Spanish Boy" (4:09) 10."Mystery Girl" (3:19)
In 1981, Aerosmith's second guitarist left to persue a solo career. (Albeit a short lived one.) Brad Whitford hooked up with Ted Nugent vocalist/rhythm guitarist Derek St. Holmes. Rounding out the lineup were bassist David Hewett and drummer Steve Pace. Of course everybody, including myself, compared this to Aerosmith and Ted Nugent, but this album is no where near as good as albums like "Rocks," "Toys in the Attic," "Ted Nugent" or "Cat Scratch Fever." That being said, this isn't a bad album either. It is a good collection of arena rock/metal songs with a good amount of commercial hooks. "Sharpshooter" is an exceptional commercial metal song and others like "Whiskey Woman" and "Spanish Boy" are just good rock and roll songs. Probably not an album that would appease the masses, but for Aerosmith and Ted Nugent fans, this album was/is a real treat. |
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Nice review!!!! Are you going to add Damn Yankees to the thread? |
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MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami

Number of posts: 14692 Age: 40 Registration date: 2007-02-01
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:33 pm | |
| | Quote: | | I wonder if his politics have kept him from getting his proper due |
While I'm sure he's always had his opinions, but does it seem like he's way more vocal about it these days than in the past? Seems like only in the last, I dunno, 10 years or so that we tend to hear about Ted's political views as opposed to his music. Was he as vocal about it in the 70's and 80's? _________________ A legend in posting since February 1st, 2007
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manny mini boss


Number of posts: 13194 Age: 41 Registration date: 2008-08-05
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:40 pm | |
| | MetalGuy71 wrote: | | Quote: | | I wonder if his politics have kept him from getting his proper due |
While I'm sure he's always had his opinions, but does it seem like he's way more vocal about it these days than in the past? Seems like only in the last, I dunno, 10 years or so that we tend to hear about Ted's political views as opposed to his music.
Was he as vocal about it in the 70's and 80's? |
I don't remember him interviews or concert in the 80's talking about politics at all, I could be wrong but it seems maybe Bill Clinton set him off, I have no idea really, he may have talked about his political beliefs but I donot remember him doing so back then. |
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ultmetal Administrator


Number of posts: 15773 Registration date: 2007-01-04
 | Subject: Re: TED NUGENT - discography Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:03 pm | |
| | thejokeriv wrote: | | Are you going to add Damn Yankees to the thread? |
Yes. _________________ ULTIMATUM - TOO METAL FOR WIKIPEDIA!
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