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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:46 pm

SD, your picture doesn't show up! Yeah that beauty is a 1957 Portable Phonograph with a Voice of Music Record Changer in it. It's mono and has some serious bass.

I read that mono needles in these old ceramic cartidges can damage your stereo records. That's why I was playing my beat up $1 and under vinyl on it.

I was intending on collecting 78s, so I decided to get this and another turntable (Dual 1215) just because. I am waiting until a get a Dual 1019(which was a top of the line 4speed model in the late 60s). All of a sudden I have Turntables coming out my wazoo!


Last edited by chewie on Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:11 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : wrong Dual, duh!!! 1019 not 1090.....)
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:44 am

Yes, you don't want to play stereo records with a mono cartridge.

I fixed my picture on the previous page (thanks for the heads up).

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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:23 pm

I got the turntable my father bought in the late 70's, it's a Marantz 6170:


I think it's great.
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:27 pm

Nice!
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:57 pm

I now have two additional turntables:


Dual 1215-S: This fool packed it incorrectly so I ended up with a broken tonearm and headshell wire. I ordered a new tonearm and resoldered the wire back on. Never did get a partial refund from his blunder. I think I'm going to use this one mainly for 78s.



Dual 1219: this one had a bent tonarm that I bent back, But I ordered a new one for this, as well. The cartridge was incorrectly wired and gave off this awful hum until I figured out that it was the cart wiring and not the turntable. Sounds Great, though!


I knew that they were both fixer uppers, but the first guy really killed it!! I'm going to make a couple of nice plinths for them, too!
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:03 pm

Coolness! I like the fact that we have someone on a heavy metal board who is into collecting 78s! I think that's awesome.

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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:09 pm

I moved my 2-speed Technics into the bedroom.
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:53 am

I have a stack of 78's but don't know where they are. Though the turntable that can play them needs to be worked on first.
I wish I ripped out the player from my old Sears TV console as it also played 16 rpm .
Though I can't remember for sure if I ever had any old records that played that slow. Keep thinking they were 8 "s.
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:19 am

from wiki:

the 16⅔ rpm speed was used for radio transcription discs or narrated publications for the blind and visually impaired, and were never widely commercially available.

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The reason it was never used commercially was because the fidelity is too low at that slow of a speed. It was only good for spoken word and advanced play time.

The faster the speed, the better the fidelity (grooves are farther apart), though you decrease play time as you increase in speed.

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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:32 am

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Coolness! I like the fact that we have someone on a heavy metal board who is into collecting 78s! I think that's awesome.


I have some 78 rpm product

Recently I got some blues stuff. Alot of the labels were missing and they were given in just a sleeve with jo jacket. I also have alot of big band stuff that was my old man's.

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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:26 pm

James B. wrote:
S.D. wrote:
Coolness! I like the fact that we have someone on a heavy metal board who is into collecting 78s! I think that's awesome.


I have some 78 rpm product

Recently I got some blues stuff. Alot of the labels were missing and they were given in just a sleeve with jo jacket. I also have alot of big band stuff that was my old man's.

It was your post that gave me the idea to look for Blues stuff in this area. K Street records has some Excellent 78s that I'm sure are out of my price range. They had Little Richard on display for $50, the rest were in the back, Blues and Rock.
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:39 pm

If you find any 78s from Prestige Records, buy them immediately.

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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:31 pm

chewie wrote:
James B. wrote:
S.D. wrote:
Coolness! I like the fact that we have someone on a heavy metal board who is into collecting 78s! I think that's awesome.


I have some 78 rpm product

Recently I got some blues stuff. Alot of the labels were missing and they were given in just a sleeve with jo jacket. I also have alot of big band stuff that was my old man's.

It was your post that gave me the idea to look for Blues stuff in this area. K Street records has some Excellent 78s that I'm sure are out of my price range. They had Little Richard on display for $50, the rest were in the back, Blues and Rock.

Try that place that used to be Tower Books on Broadway and Land Park.

oops I mean Tower video. If you are in front of the old Tower records, it is the second building to the left.

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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:57 pm

James B. wrote:
chewie wrote:
James B. wrote:
S.D. wrote:
Coolness! I like the fact that we have someone on a heavy metal board who is into collecting 78s! I think that's awesome.


I have some 78 rpm product

Recently I got some blues stuff. Alot of the labels were missing and they were given in just a sleeve with jo jacket. I also have alot of big band stuff that was my old man's.

It was your post that gave me the idea to look for Blues stuff in this area. K Street records has some Excellent 78s that I'm sure are out of my price range. They had Little Richard on display for $50, the rest were in the back, Blues and Rock.

Try that place that used to be Tower Books on Broadway and Land Park.

oops I mean Tower video. If you are in front of the old Tower records, it is the second building to the left.

That is where K Street Records moved to when they got kicked off of K street for revitalization(that still hasn't been done, what bungle that has been!). I think they just renamed themselves Rare Records or something like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:59 pm

Got this, GE RPX Mono 78 Phono Cartridge to play my 78s with. It's obviously a true mono cart. He says it already has a 78 needle in it, and I can also put a mono one in it to play old mono records.


Hopefully, it fits in the Cartridge Carrier that I want to put it in! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:40 pm

remember the stylus' you flipped over on the arm to play 78's with surprised

I was too stupid or too stoned back then to know why you were supposed to do it Laughing very hard

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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:41 pm

James B. wrote:
remember the stylus' you flipped over on the arm to play 78's with surprised

I was too stupid or too stoned back then to know why you were supposed to do it Laughing very hard

So was I drunken ............... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:13 pm

Well, I finally got both of my Duals up and running(I knew knowing how to use a soldering iron would pay off...... of course, I haven't used one since early high school Laughing ). Now I just gotta spin some vinyl!!!


The 1215-S is set up for 78s and the 1219 for everything else!


Oh yeah, I ended up buying another portable Magnavox. I was going to scrap it for the small stereo amp, but it ended up sounding great the way it is. It has a Collaro that touches the edge of the record to figure out what size it is. I bought a spec sheet for it and maybe I will build one from scratch since I can use the one in the changer as a reference.
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:17 pm

Did you guys know that the long playing record was originally created for use in syncing sound with Motion Pictures in the early development of talkies?

It was a 16-inch platter that ran at 33 1/3 RPM. It was abandoned once they figured out how to add the soundtrack onto the film itself.

Stereo was also developed during that same period for proposed use in film, some experimental stereo recordings date back to 1932. Although it wouldn't be used for motion pictures until 1940 (Fantasia).

It wasn't adopted for home music listening until 1957.




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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:14 pm

S.D. wrote:
Did you guys know that the long playing record was originally created for use in syncing sound with Motion Pictures in the early development of talkies?

It was a 16-inch platter that ran at 33 1/3 RPM. It was abandoned once they figured out how to add the soundtrack onto the film itself.

Stereo was also developed during that same period for proposed use in film, some experimental stereo recordings date back to 1932. Although it wouldn't be used for motion pictures until 1940 (Fantasia).

It wasn't adopted for home music listening until 1957.


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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:32 pm

Laughing very hard
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Wed May 09, 2012 10:50 pm

Hey Wargod,
Are you plugging this turntable directly into a amp? I still have my stereo that I purchased in the early 90's that I have painstakingly taken care of and still works great. I am using a Kenwood Stereo receiver.

I also have my original 80's Technics Quartz Direct Drive turntable. I had a few extra needles/cartridges, which I am now out of. Thinking of just getting a new turntable and the Audio-Technica AT-LP120-USB Record Turntable. Will it work?

Also, did you replace the needle/cartridge in your new Audio-Technica turntable?

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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Wed May 09, 2012 11:44 pm

ultmetal wrote:
Hey Wargod,
Are you plugging this turntable directly into a amp? I still have my stereo that I purchased in the early 90's that I have painstakingly taken care of and still works great. I am using a Kenwood Stereo receiver.

I also have my original 80's Technics Quartz Direct Drive turntable. I had a few extra needles/cartridges, which I am now out of. Thinking of just getting a new turntable and the Audio-Technica AT-LP120-USB Record Turntable. Will it work?

Also, did you replace the needle/cartridge in your new Audio-Technica turntable?

Ult, that turntable comes with a built in pre-amp.
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Thu May 10, 2012 8:32 am

Witchfinder wrote:
ultmetal wrote:
Hey Wargod,
Are you plugging this turntable directly into a amp? I still have my stereo that I purchased in the early 90's that I have painstakingly taken care of and still works great. I am using a Kenwood Stereo receiver.

I also have my original 80's Technics Quartz Direct Drive turntable. I had a few extra needles/cartridges, which I am now out of. Thinking of just getting a new turntable and the Audio-Technica AT-LP120-USB Record Turntable. Will it work?

Also, did you replace the needle/cartridge in your new Audio-Technica turntable?

Ult, that turntable comes with a built in pre-amp.

I have that turntable too and WF is correct, it has a built in pre-amp. I use the preamp and plug right into my Denon home theater receiver (in the video AUX inputs)

I replaced the cartridge with this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Shure-M97xE-High-Performance-Magnetic-Cartridge/dp/B00006I5SB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336653044&sr=8-1
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PostSubject: Re: Turntables   Thu May 10, 2012 11:25 am

thejokeriv wrote:
Witchfinder wrote:
ultmetal wrote:
Hey Wargod,
Are you plugging this turntable directly into a amp? I still have my stereo that I purchased in the early 90's that I have painstakingly taken care of and still works great. I am using a Kenwood Stereo receiver.

I also have my original 80's Technics Quartz Direct Drive turntable. I had a few extra needles/cartridges, which I am now out of. Thinking of just getting a new turntable and the Audio-Technica AT-LP120-USB Record Turntable. Will it work?

Also, did you replace the needle/cartridge in your new Audio-Technica turntable?

Ult, that turntable comes with a built in pre-amp.

I have that turntable too and WF is correct, it has a built in pre-amp. I use the preamp and plug right into my Denon home theater receiver (in the video AUX inputs)

I replaced the cartridge with this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Shure-M97xE-High-Performance-Magnetic-Cartridge/dp/B00006I5SB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336653044&sr=8-1

So then it should work plugged into receiver into the turntable input.

What's the point of the pre-amp?

That's the one thing I hate about buying things on-line is you can't physically see it.

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