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PostSubject: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:50 am

Come on! Who's got the balls to say it?

You know you've got it in your collection! You can't hide it with any Kreator , Sodom and Destruction cds! It's there!
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:02 am

YES IT IS!!!





Only "After the Rain" though. Is their other stuff as good?
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:53 pm

Very weak stuff. Never got into them at all but my wife thought they were cool back in the day.
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:10 pm

Excellent harmonies.

Excellent hooks.

Excellent choruses.

Very homogonized and processed for the (then) masses...much like Daughtry or Kenny Chesney.
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:01 pm

Get the new album, it's GRRRRRREAT!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:05 pm

I ended up with Nelson's AFTER THE RAIN when I bought a pile of CDs at a yard sale a year or two back. Listened to it once or twice and...ick. Way too slick, too sappy, too sweet, too... too (*barf*)

Seriously, this album should've been marketed as a "My First Rock Band" kit aimed at twelve year old girls. (TV Commercial: "They're Cute! They ROCK! They're totally Non-Threatening! Make sure to tell your Moms that these boys are Ricky's kids!!") It should've come packaged with dolls of Gunnar and Matthew.

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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:09 pm

Fat Freddy wrote:
I ended up with Nelson's AFTER THE RAIN when I bought a pile of CDs at a yard sale a year or two back. Listened to it once or twice and...ick. Too slick, too sappy, too sweet, too... too (*barf*)

Seriously, this album was a "My First Rock Band" aimed at twelve year old girls. ("They rock! They're Cute! They're Non-Threatening!") It should've come packaged with dolls of Gunnar and Matthew.


Well it's better than the crap twelve year old girls listen to these days. Jonas Brothers and Justin Bieber make Nelson's music sound down right manly.
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:12 pm

DallasBlack wrote:

Well it's better than the crap twelve year old girls listen to these days. Jonas Brothers and Justin Bieber make Nelson's music sound down right manly.


I'll take your word for it. Thankfully I have boy young'ins, so my exposure to "Bieber Fever" and the Jonas Plague has been limited. Very Happy

But if them Nelson boys were just starting out now instead of 20 years ago, they probably would'a had a sitcom on the Disney Channel as part of the package.

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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:21 pm

I hated them and still hate them.
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:28 pm



"You like Nelson"

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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:36 pm

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"You like Nelson"


Yeah, I also like Billy Joel, Bryan Adams, Richard Marx, Lou Gramm, John Denver, and many other artists/bands considered by many as weak. I have no shame in admitting it and their CDs sit proudly among several classic, power, thrash, and death metal bands. Yeah, I'm that awesome! Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:40 pm

Believe it or not, they are distant cousins of mine. I did meet them & their father when they were much younger before anybody knew who they were. They are either a little younger or older than me, cant remember though. No I don't own any albums from them but do own some of their fathers stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:01 pm

That first album isn't so bad. I like stuff with hooks, so I find myself gravitating to that album on occasion.



It's not a top favorite by any means ... but it's a decent album if you are in the mood for some slick hard rock.



I think the comparison to Justin Beiber and the Jonas Brothers is a bit harsh. At the time Nelson came out - they were aimed at the commercial masses of MTV. Not little girls. There were other bands of the day doing that. (Milli Vanilli anyone?)
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:13 pm

Metallic Blaze wrote:
That first album isn't so bad. I like stuff with hooks, so I find myself gravitating to that album on occasion.



It's not a top favorite by any means ... but it's a decent album if you are in the mood for some slick hard rock.



I think the comparison to Justin Beiber and the Jonas Brothers is a bit harsh. At the time Nelson came out - they were aimed at the commercial masses of MTV. Not little girls. There were other bands of the day doing that. (Milli Vanilli anyone?)


I'm RIGHT THERE with you! Give me a good hook or a harmony ANY day! What Nelson did, they did very well! Not my favorite band or CD by any means, but they have their (small) place on my CD shelf.
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:23 pm

Waylon wrote:
Metallic Blaze wrote:
That first album isn't so bad. I like stuff with hooks, so I find myself gravitating to that album on occasion.



It's not a top favorite by any means ... but it's a decent album if you are in the mood for some slick hard rock.



I think the comparison to Justin Beiber and the Jonas Brothers is a bit harsh. At the time Nelson came out - they were aimed at the commercial masses of MTV. Not little girls. There were other bands of the day doing that. (Milli Vanilli anyone?)


I'm RIGHT THERE with you! Give me a good hook or a harmony ANY day! What Nelson did, they did very well! Not my favorite band or CD by any means, but they have their (small) place on my CD shelf.








Exactly.





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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:17 pm

Not really a fan, but I have to say, the solo on can't live without your love (and affection) kicks ass!
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:34 pm

I've never owned an album by these guys. No balls.

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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:57 am

After the Rain still gets repeat plays, EVERY song is just perfect! That said, I dig the other releases as well! Yes they are slick/polished/pretty/whatever, but they got more hooks than a Peter Pan convention and don't forget the rockin tune they did as Power Tool on the Bill And Ted's Excellent Adventure Soundtrack, "Two Heads Are Better Than One!"

Actually went to the show in Seattle on the After The Rain tour and they killed live! I recall House Of Lords opened that one.

Fanboy right here! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:01 am

I didn't realize they were Power Tool. That song actually kicks arse!
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:22 pm

Imaginator (1996):




The Silence Is Broken (1997):
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:14 pm

chewie, those samps are actually pretty cool. Ironically, they sound nothing at all like some of the 'other' bands at the time who were actually trying to alter their music to sound more 'alternative'. This is true to hard rock.
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:22 am

I got After the Rain and Lighting Strikes Twice is in the mail!

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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:31 am

The samples that Chewie provided sound NOTHING like what I remember of Nelson.

I only seen one or two videos, especially one being on Beavis & Butthead, and it did nothing for me at all.

IF I heard the 2 rockin' songs above first, would have been a fan immediately!
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:37 am

Another factor is that music from bands like Nelson was over produced and polished in the 80s/early 90s, while in the late 90s and these days they are less so (compare After The Rain to Lightning Strikes Twice or any 80s Night Ranger album to Somewhere In California and you'll hear the difference).
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PostSubject: Re: Nelson   Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:17 am

I was just looking around on the youtube and found those samples. Those two late 90's albums sound pretty good! I might just pick 'em up. I think that they learned from their Dad about doing what you want, to heck with trends and what other people want(or think). He wrote a song about it........ It goes somethin' like this:


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In 1972, Nelson reached the Top 40 one last time with "Garden Party", a song he wrote in disgust after a Madison Square Garden audience booed him, because, in his mind, he was playing new songs instead of just his old hits(sound familiar????). When he performed the Stones' "Honky Tonk Woman" he was booed off the stage. He watched the rest of the performance on a TV monitor backstage, and quietly left the Madison Garden, without taking a final bow for the finale


Yoko, John Lennon(Walrus) and George Harrison(Mr. Hughes) are mentioned in the song as well as part of the good vibes






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The date: October 15th 1971. Madison Square Garden, New York City.

The Event: the 7th Annual Rock-N-Roll Revival Show.

It was a concert that featured a collection of artists who were unearthed on stage and on vinyl in the 1950′s. They were the musical roots that allowed Rock-N-Roll to grow.

There was Chuck Berry on stage, doing his famous duckwalk while reeling off hits like Maybelline, Sweet Little Sixteen and Johnny B Goode. Fats Domino, pounding out Blueberry Hill and Ain’t That A Shame on his piano. Bill Haley, singing the first rock anthem “Rock Around The Clock”- his hair still slicked back with that familiar kiss curl hanging down on his forehead.

The audience was gushing in memories and loving every back beat coming from the stage. After yet another brief intermission to rearrange the stage for the next act, the nights MC, legendary promoter Richard Nadar introduced the next act.

“Ladies and Gentleman would you please give a warm welcome for Rick Nelson!”

Out on stage walked Rick waving to the crowd as he plugged in and set himself up to sing.

The person the audience saw onstage, was not the person they associated with the name. It wasn’t Ricky from the 50′s, the teenage pop idol who literally grew up in front of Americans on television as little Ricky Nelson on the hugely popular Ozzie & Harriet show, it was just Rick now, and the more mature Nelson didn’t resemble what the crowd remembered from the fabulous fifties: his hair was grown out shoulder length, he wore a purple velvet sequined shirt with bell-bottomed pants and was barely recognizable to most simply because he had not been in the spotlight since his last hit in 1963.



Rick took to the stage and began playing his set with a few of his 50′s hits, then began performing his new material with his Stone Canyon Band. The songs had a smooth country rock feel to them. The Stone Canyon Band once feature a young 25-year-old bassist named Randy Meisner, who would later join Poco, then help form the first lineup of a new band called The Eagles.

The crowd didn’t get it.

A loud rumble of booing began to sweep over the Garden. Rick Nelson was experiencing something he had never felt before: An unappreciative audience.

It affected Rick deeply. So much in fact that he went home after the show and began writing about the experience:

I went to a garden party to reminisce with my old friends
A chance to share old memories and play our songs again
When I got to the garden party, they all knew my name
No one recognized me, I didn’t look the same

But it’s all right now, I learned my lesson well.
You see, ya can’t please everyone, so ya got to please yourself

It was a special song for Rick. Up until that time, Nelson rarely wrote his own hits and a year later Garden Party would sit for three months on the charts and introduce the 50′s star to a new audience.

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