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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:17 pm

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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:22 pm

I had a thought today at work about an old Wrestlemania match that can be said to be made in heaven now:

Macho King Randy Savage & Sensational Queen Sherri vs. The American Dream Dusty Rhodes & Sapphire (with Mrs. Elizabeth at ringside)

Except for the referee, everyone involved in that match is now gone.
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:36 am

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The Vaudevillians are a comedy tag team with a creative entrance.  They won't get over on the main roster because they are a tag team and WWE doesn't care about tag teams.  They are doomed.

30 years too late. They would've made it in the WWF of the mid 80's.
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:40 am

A special called Celebrating the Dream will air on the WWE Network this Monday after RAW. It will, of course, celebrate the life and career of “The American Dream” Dusty Rhodes, who passed away yesterday.



As recently as the last PPV I thought of the "Dusty Finish". Ambrose gets a clean win over Seth Rollins only to have it "reversed to a DQ". Total BS after years of hearing "the referee's decision is always final!". I'm ready for Brock to come back and clean house.
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:26 pm

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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:46 pm

I'll be watching Money In The Bank tonight. Hopefully it's not too predictable. Usually these minor PPVs are but KO's surprise win last time gives me some hope for little surprises at the PPVs. However, if not I won't cry over it. I watch them just because I have the WWE Network which turns $40-60 PPVs into $10 ones (actually less when you take into account the fact we're getting one every 2 weeks).
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:11 pm

i'll be VERY surprised if Cena puts over Owens in two consecutive matches.

I also hope The New Day is allowed to keep the tag titles. Besides the fact that I love there schtick now, I also like their throwback to the way The Fabulous Freebirds used to defend the tag titles; a three-man team where you don't know which two will be defending the titles.

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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:41 pm

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i'll be VERY surprised if Cena puts over Owens in two consecutive matches.  

I also hope The New Day is allowed to keep the tag titles.  Besides the fact that I love there schtick now, I also like their throwback to the way The Fabulous Freebirds used to defend the tag titles; a three-man team where you don't know which two will be defending the titles.  

Yeah, that's the concern about KO. Going over Cena once is one thing. Two times in a row is another. Lets not forget the countless guys getting a win over Cena only to get pushed back down the ladder.

I also agree with the New Day. After risking life and limb to entertain people, Kofi finally has someplace to shine. Same thing with Carlton on steroids (as a place to shine-he hasn't risked much). We have enough big guys playing the silent tough guy.

Roman Reigns winning MitB is also as much written in stone as a Cena victory. That and a Rollins win. No problem with the last one as Rollins is one of the best all around superstar they have right now (miles ahead on the mic above Reigns and a better in ring performer than Ambrose and again miles ahead of Reigns).
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:14 pm

They had a 10 bell salute to Dusty. Not afraid to admit, I teared up (if Vince can tear up, why not me Very Happy). Not just from the loss of a legend but from the emotion showed by those who knew him well. That is why all wrestling tributes cause me to emote (death of Eddie, seeing the old footage from the death of Owen, the in ring tribute to Flair's retirement, etc.). It's more about the empathy I feel for the impression he left on others.
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:36 am

If you haven't and plan on watching Money In The Bank, don't read this.

Cena vs. KO was another great match between these two even if most of us knew what the outcome would be. Of course Cena won, however I liked the after attack on Cena. Too often we see a heel and a face have a hard grueling match where the face wins and shakes the hand of the heel and the heel walks away. A fake hand shake hasn't been seen in quite a while. Also fits KO. He needs to be a sore loser and a cheap attack artist. Maybe he might win the rubber match but history tells us no.

Why do we have a PPV called Money In The Bank when the match it's named after is the preliminary match? I understand the world title match being the Main Event but if your going to name the PPV MitB wouldn't make sense to at least have it second to last?

Nikky Bella won thanks to Twin Magic again. However, Nikky had her hair down and Brie had a pony tail. So your opponent has long hair flying all over the place and when you bring her back in her hair is up and you don't find anything amiss? We're supposed to feel sorry for Paige but you can't tell me there isn't anyone thinking she deserved to lose by being so stupid.

As far as MitB, I pretty much knew it'd either be Reigns or Sheamus. After Bray attacked Reigns, I knew it'd be Sheamus. Not sure how I feel about this. I think the new Sheamus should have the MitB contract. However, Bray vs. Reigns is just another way to push Reigns while keeping Bray as glorified enhancement talent. I understand pushing Reigns, but Bray needs a feud he'll actually win.

Prime Time Players pick up the tag titles from New Day. This was the only unpredictable match. I was sure New Day would win. However, PTP are a pretty good tag team and deserve at least one run with the titles. Though, I'm pretty sure if Tyson Kid didn't get injured, him and Cesaro would have been in the match instead and declared the winners.

The title match was a pretty good one. Both guys put on a great performance and Ambrose showed that he is one of the best sellers in WWE. Even though I knew Rollins would win, there were small doubts when Ambrose got the upper hand and both came crashing down holding the title. As previously stated, as far as mic skills and in ring work, Rollins is one of the best they have so I won't be surprised if he hold on until Summerslam.

Pretty good minor PPV. While most of the match outcomes were highly predictable, the matches themselves were pretty good. Next PPV won't be for five weeks. Quite a wait considering we had three in a row separated by just a few weeks.
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:24 pm

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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:28 pm

MITB was okay I guess. I was only watching it for the Cena-Owens match and that delivered in spades. It made sense to have Cena go over so we could get the rubber match at Battleground. Frankly, these guys should do 5 or 7 matches if they are all of this quality. Hats off to Cena too. He's working the matches of his career and making Owens look like a million bucks. Like DB said the match had a great ending with KO cheap shotting Cena.

I didn't really care about any of the other matches and Seamus winning is a joke. That dude is a albino charisma vacuum. Ugh.
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:07 pm

One other thing about Michael Cole's commentary at MitB (especially in the KO/Cena match). Almost every single pinfall attempt was met with so and so "for the win". You could play a drinking game when watching a WWE match with Cole on commentary. Take a shot for each time he says "vintage" or "for the win". Actually, probably not a good idea. You'd die of alcohol poisoning before the show was over.
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:16 pm

Ditto for all the times Vince would yell 'WHAT A MANEUVER!!"
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:52 pm

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Ditto for all the times Vince would yell 'WHAT A MANEUVER!!"

Well Vince does think Cole is the best play-by-play guy they have. Birds of a feather...
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:30 pm

I can't believe how much they've sabotaged Bray Wyatt.  I blame the whole feud with Cena.  He was a white hot heel there for a while and now he's what DB said, "enhancement talent".  I don't get it.  He's got charisma, mic skills and some unique moves (like that weird looking upside-down crab-walk thing).  

I've said it a million times but I'll say it again, Paul Heyman could have made a fortune with that guy.  Look what he did with Raven and the Flock. Similar gimmick.

Part of the problem is the PG thing. Raven could do crucifixions, kidnappings, whippings, etc. He was in so many great bloodbaths with Sandman. Bray could do exactly the same thing. Oh, but then the little kiddies would start to cry.

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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:08 pm

Damn! WWE sure is great at video tributes. I teared up watching the one for Dusty Rhodes that opened tonight's Raw.

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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:18 pm

HAHAHAHA!!!!

Seth Rollins is great here!

"People all over the world will be naming their kids after me!"

"Take a good look Cleveland; it's the only championship you're ever going to see!"

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:36 pm

Watching Smackdown.

Man, KO is great on the mic in a subtle way. He doesn't scream or yell but it's still obvious he's a heel. "Say it into the mic. 'You won'. " And then Cesaro shows up. That could be a good match but given where each wrestlers' careers are at this point I'm betting KO ends up winning after letting Cesaro get a few good shots in.

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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:35 pm

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Watching Smackdown.

Man, KO is great on the mic in a subtle way.  He doesn't scream or yell but it's still obvious he's a heel.  "Say it into the mic. 'You won'. "  And then Cesaro shows up.  That could be a good match but given where each wrestlers' careers are at this point I'm betting KO ends up winning after letting Cesaro get a few good shots in.  

It's funny. I heard someone complain that KO is too soft spoken and subtle. I'm guessing they weren't watching wrestling during Jake "The Snake" Roberts' time. He was another guy who could get his point across without screaming or yelling and he was considered one of the best talkers at the time.

I agree that Cesaro will/would lose that match. Despite the fans liking him and him being so strong and good in the ring, they just don't know what to do with him when not part of a tag team. I don't see him going very far despite his talents.
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:53 pm

It's a weird kind of talent to be soft-spoken and calm yet still come across as extremely menacing. Kevin Owens has that in spades.

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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:00 pm

Hmmm..

I actually kinda like this feud between Bray Wyatt and Roman Reigns.  It's elevating Bray and bringing back the sinister nature of his character.   Reminds me a lot of Raven and Sandman in the old ECW days. Too bad Bray is constrained by the stupid PG rating of WWE; Raven could do all kinds of evil stuff in ECW that Bray can't possibly do in WWE with that stupid rating in place.

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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:29 am

Speaking of commentators, here's my favorite:





And of course "A Pearl Harbor job!". Love Monsoon & Heenan!
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PostSubject: Re: WWF/WWE/ECW/WCW   Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:44 am

Just finished the Hulu version of RAW. I was ticked off that of all the stuff they could have cut out, they left Water Pistol Kelly's performance in. Then KO came in and threw him around. That was almost the best part of the show... until Brock came back (though it was pretty predictable).

BTW, props to that Kelly dude for taking that bump. Surprised he didn't break his bony body Very Happy.
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