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PostSubject: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:04 pm

"Ted Nugent is apparently in trouble with the US Secret Service.

This follows the Loudmanís comments at a National Rifle Association convention, when he said of President Barack Obama:

ďIf Barack Obama becomes the President in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year. We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November.

ďItís good people who bent over and let the enemy in. If the coyoteís in your living room pissing on your couch, itís not the coyoteís fault. Itís your fault for not shooting him.Ē

As itís against the law in the States to make any threatening comments against the President, Nugent is now said to be under investigation by the US Secret Service.

(The authorities might also be aware of the fact that Uncle Ted has been known to go on-stage brandishing a machine gun, and suggesting Obama suck on it!)"

Wonder if Obama ever heard of free speech! :cheese:
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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:09 pm

It's becoming harder and harder to seperate the man from his music.

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:27 pm

MetalGuy71 wrote:
It's becoming harder and harder to seperate the man from his music.


I agree, damn he is now known more for his stupid comments then his music.

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:52 pm

I like Ted's music but the older he gets the more radical his views become.

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:52 pm

Ted needs to learn to keep his mouth shut.
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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:54 pm

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Ted needs to learn to keep his mouth shut.

He can do it. It is possible!! He has a bit part in the action/comedy movie "Beer For My Horses" with Toby Keith and Rodney Carrington. He plays a cop and his character is almost totally silent for the whole movie, save for two words at the very end..

.... after my wife and I watched that movie, the first thing I said was "Damn, it must've been HELL for Ted to keep his mouth shut all that time!"

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:37 pm

Shocking! Not.

I don't agree with Ted on everything, but he's done nothing wrong here. It's fairly obvious he was talking about not re-electing Obama in November, not killing him. If they can't see that, they are the idiots he says they are.

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:04 am

Uncle Ted. The guy reminds me of a cigar lounge I like to visit every once in a while because it's got great selection and great prices. Come on down and enjoy yourself, just remember to ask the (racist)owner what time the Klan meeting starts because it gets a bit unwelcoming in there when the good old boys start coming in with their Confederate flags and attitude. Hasn't stopped me from purchasing hard to find cigars I enjoy though.
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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:16 am

Ted Nugent may make great music, but IMO he's a complete wackjob when it comes to politics, (his portrayal in that one episode of The Simpsons he starred in wasn't much of an exaggeration) I personally think musicians should stick to doing music and stay out of politics altogether, NRA gun-nuts like Ted piss me off to no end, so even though investigating him might be a bit over-the-top, I can't really say I sympathize with him in the least.
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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:42 am

The last time I saw the Nuge in concert (opening for Kiss in 2000) I was SO turned off by his between-song banter...racist, sexist, homophobic garbage...I literally haven't been able to listen to him since. A damn good guitarist, but a real piece of sh*t human being.
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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:06 am

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Shocking! Not.

I don't agree with Ted on everything, but he's done nothing wrong here. It's fairly obvious he was talking about not re-electing Obama in November, not killing him. If they can't see that, they are the idiots he says they are.

I agree, but paranoia knows no bounds!
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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:37 am

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Shocking! Not.

I don't agree with Ted on everything, but he's done nothing wrong here. It's fairly obvious he was talking about not re-electing Obama in November, not killing him. If they can't see that, they are the idiots he says they are.

Maybe but I still think it's dumb to say something like that in a public forum.

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:46 am

When I first saw the thread title,I thought he was somehow involved in getting those call girls with the secret service dudes. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:46 am

tohostudios wrote:
ultmetal wrote:
Shocking! Not.

I don't agree with Ted on everything, but he's done nothing wrong here. It's fairly obvious he was talking about not re-electing Obama in November, not killing him. If they can't see that, they are the idiots he says they are.

Maybe but I still think it's dumb to say something like that in a public forum.


I agree, and Nugent is grown 60 something year old man, he knew what was saying was going to attract negative attention, so he can't cry fowl.

The Secret Service whether it is Obama, Bush, or Clinton, or anyone else who happen to be sitting in office, would investigate, that is their job, and it was not directed by President Obama, I doubt the Prez takes ten seconds to think about Nugent.

I like his music but it is getting harder and harder to separate the man from his music, and I think it is sad he is more know for being an assclown then a metal legend in the public's eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:20 am

brokentulsa wrote:

Wonder if Obama ever heard of free speech! :cheese:
Only if it's free speech they agree with.
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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:26 am

This has nothing to do with free speech. You are not allowed to threaten the president, period. The reaction would have been exactly the same no matter who is in office.

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:27 am

This will blow over quickly. The Secret Service will talk to him for five minutes, decide that he's a mongoloid with a big mouth, and that'll be the end of it.

If anything, it'll prove to be a great P.R. stunt for Nugent.

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:31 am

Exactly, both S.D. and FF are correct.

Nothing to do with free speech, if this had been George W he had said something about, the secret service are obliged to investigate.


FF, is right once the Secret Service visit Nugent, they will probably advise him to shut up and play your guitar
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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:16 pm

Ted's gonna have a cook-out...

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"We're going to have a little barbecue get-together. I'm not trying to diminish the seriousness of this, because if the Secret Service are doing it, they are serious. They are dedicated and I will be as polite and supportive as I possibly can be, which will be thoroughly."

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:21 pm

MetalGuy71 wrote:
Ted's gonna have a cook-out...

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"We're going to have a little barbecue get-together. I'm not trying to diminish the seriousness of this, because if the Secret Service are doing it, they are serious. They are dedicated and I will be as polite and supportive as I possibly can be, which will be thoroughly."

I'd love to be a fly on the wall during this cookout. Imagine him grillin' up big ole slabs of Elk or something and giving a bunch of it in take-out containers to the agents. "No hard feelings, right guys? Here, take some of the leftovers back to Mr. and Mrs. Obama." Laughing very hard

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:24 pm

He's gonna bar-b-que a bald eagle. Thems good eatin', right there.

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:26 pm

MetalGuy71 wrote:
He's gonna bar-b-que a bald eagle. Thems good eatin', right there.

"It was comin' right for us! I HAD to put it down to protect my family!"

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:32 pm

Pop quiz...Who said it? Ted Nugent or Krusty the Clown?

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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:33 pm

He was very careful with his words. Some will see it as threat, others not. The determination of how one "reads between the lines" is gonna be based on which political affiliation(s) you posses.


Just about everything said in the polical arena as of late usually in one form or aother goes back to people making assumptions as to what was implied rather than what was actually said. This happens on both sides of the fence.




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PostSubject: Re: Ted Nugent in trouble with secret service   Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:40 pm

I am pretty liberal when it comes to my politics ( I know surprise! surprise!) and some Democrats tried to make political hay out of his statements but most folks know Nugent is a blow hard.
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