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PostSubject: Prog-Metal   Fri May 11, 2012 9:39 pm

I have been spending some time listening to Creations End and Ark. I found both of these bands by following breadcrumbs on Spotify and I bought the albums off of iTunes. Both are fantastic prog-metal, that sound nothing like DT. Problem is, I cannot find any info at all on Ark and very little about Creations End. Creations End website gives a very brief history of the band and lists the members. Apparently, lead singer Mike DiMio used to sing for Riot. Do you guys know anything about these bands?
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Fri May 11, 2012 10:16 pm

I believe Jorn Lande (Masterplan) was the vocalist for Ark. That's about all I can tell ya. Never even heard of Creations End.

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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Fri May 11, 2012 10:18 pm

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I believe Jorn Lande (Masterplan) was the vocalist for Ark. That's about all I can tell ya. Never even heard of Creations End.

Sweet, thanks. I have never heard of Masterplan so I will check them out. Is the the same Jorn Lande that is behind the Jorn power metal albums?
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Fri May 11, 2012 10:22 pm

He is indeed the genius behind Jorn and he also released a S/T Ark album back in '99
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 12:19 pm

So what are new to listening to progmetal? If so there are tons out there and not like DT at all.

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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 12:34 pm

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He is indeed the genius behind Jorn and he also released a S/T Ark album back in '99

He also has three albums with Symphony X vocalist Russel Allen with music written by current Primal Fear guitarist Magnus Karlsson and is called Allen-Lande. The first one is excellent and the follow ups while not quite of the same caliber, are great as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 3:54 pm

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So what are new to listening to progmetal? If so there are tons out there and not like DT at all.

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Somewhat new. I never really got in to prog-metal except for DT and Savatage. I Have one Fates Warning album but it's not doing much for me. When I heard the Souljourners debut it really peaked my interest. I have since discovered Neil Morse, Creations End, Ark, and Porcupine Tree. Any suggestions would indeed be helpful.
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 3:58 pm

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He is indeed the genius behind Jorn and he also released a S/T Ark album back in '99

He also has three albums with Symphony X vocalist Russel Allen with music written by current Primal Fear guitarist Magnus Karlsson and is called Allen-Lande. The first one is excellent and the follow ups while not quite of the same caliber, are great as well.


sweet! I will check that out. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 5:29 pm

Check out some Innosense, Threshold, Magnitude 9, Redemption, Riverside......

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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 5:31 pm

Here are the masterplan albums with Jorn...masterplan did one album (Mk 2) without jorn

Masterplan

Enlighten Me (single) (2002)
Masterplan (2003)
Back For My Life (EP) (2004)
Aeronautics (2005)
Far From the End of the World (EP) (2010)
Time to Be King (2010)



here is some info on Ark...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_%28Norwegian_band%29
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here is some info on Creations end...
http://www.creationsend.net/index1.html
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 5:32 pm

Some stand out tracks from the debut:



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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 5:40 pm

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Check out some Innosense, Threshold, Magnitude 9, Redemption, Riverside......

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...Shadow Gallery, Royal Hunt, James LaBrie (solo), Pagan's Mind, Angra, Ayreon, Evergrey, & Symphony X
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 6:16 pm

DallasBlack wrote:
Wargod wrote:
Check out some Innosense, Threshold, Magnitude 9, Redemption, Riverside......

Wargod

...Shadow Gallery, Royal Hunt, James LaBrie (solo), Pagan's Mind, Angra, Ayreon, Evergrey, & Symphony X

Royal Hunt, Crimson Glory, and Angra are all fantastic. I actually found Angra through their cover of Painkiller on the JP tribute. I will check out the rest, Thanks guys, this is awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 6:34 pm

some great bands already mentioned. I would add:

Anubis Gate
Aspera
Circus Maximus
Dali's Dilemma
Darkwater
Echoes
Fair to Midland
Haken
Hangar
Harmony
Kingfisher Sky
Leprous
Myrath
Pantommind
Pathosray
Serenity
Sieges Even
Souljourners
Suspyre
Vougan

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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 6:47 pm

brokentulsa wrote:
..masterplan did one album (Mk 2) without jorn




Interesting that Mike Demio is that singer & he is the singer for Creations End.

The Creation' s End cd was a favorite of mine last year & Mike's voice is stunning! The title track is epic imho.


Ark 2 great cd's. The 1st one has a more striped down sound where the second one has full band & a fuller sound. Tore Ostby on guitar after the demise of Conception. I would check all 4 of conceptions cd's out also.
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 7:02 pm

exact33 wrote:
some great bands already mentioned. I would add:

Anubis Gate
Aspera
Circus Maximus
Dali's Dilemma
Darkwater
Echoes
Fair to Midland
Haken
Hangar
Harmony
Kingfisher Sky
Leprous
Myrath
Pantommind
Pathosray
Serenity
Sieges Even
Souljourners
Suspyre
Vougan

I agree some great bands mentioned. Symphony X, Pagans Mind, Threshold all high on my list.

exact33 I only recognize a few bands on your list Anubis Gate, Darkwater & Dali's Dilemma . I think they are from where I live San Jose, Ca. But I do not have a cd by them.

I think I will have to check some of theses bands out, Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 7:12 pm

If you are into death metal at all, and want to check out some prog-death, check out Obscura.
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 8:48 pm

ozzman wrote:
exact33 wrote:
some great bands already mentioned. I would add:

Anubis Gate
Aspera
Circus Maximus
Dali's Dilemma
Darkwater
Echoes
Fair to Midland
Haken
Hangar
Harmony
Kingfisher Sky
Leprous
Myrath
Pantommind
Pathosray
Serenity
Sieges Even
Souljourners
Suspyre
Vougan

I agree some great bands mentioned. Symphony X, Pagans Mind, Threshold all high on my list.

exact33 I only recognize a few bands on your list Anubis Gate, Darkwater & Dali's Dilemma . I think they are from where I live San Jose, Ca. But I do not have a cd by them.

I think I will have to check some of theses bands out, Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, cheers

anytime. Welcome to the board btw!

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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 9:03 pm

Wargod wrote:
Check out some Innosense, Threshold, Magnitude 9, Redemption, Riverside......

Wargod

Wargod has a great list there! Defintely check out Seiges Even!!!! Did anyone mention Vanden Plas????


Also, hello ozzman from SJ!!! I grew up in ESJ(went to YB and IHS) and then moved up here to Sac a while back. Welcome aboard.
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 9:51 pm

The easiest way to dig into the prog genre is explore the releases the labels have put out. Magna Carta, Inside Out, Sensory/Laser's Edge, etc.

But really, just network.

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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 9:52 pm

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If you are into death metal at all, and want to check out some prog-death, check out Obscura.
I wouldn't call them prog.

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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 10:16 pm

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Required Fields wrote:
If you are into death metal at all, and want to check out some prog-death, check out Obscura.
I wouldn't call them prog.

I know they aren't pure prog, but they definitely have progressive/technical elements. That's why I mentioned them.
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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sat May 12, 2012 10:28 pm

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Eyesore wrote:
Required Fields wrote:
If you are into death metal at all, and want to check out some prog-death, check out Obscura.
I wouldn't call them prog.
I know they aren't pure prog, but they definitely have progressive/technical elements. That's why I mentioned them.
They definitely play that so-called "technical death metal," but I've always felt intricate playing styles needed more to be considered prog. Cynic's Focus is a good example of that.

But I would agree that Obscura has prog elements.

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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sun May 13, 2012 12:42 am

Did anyone mention Vanden Plas????


Also, hello ozzman from SJ!!! I grew up in ESJ(went to YB and IHS) and then moved up here to Sac a while back. Welcome aboard


Thanks.....

Vaden Plas, Excellent band!

I went to Cupertino HS but lived between Lucretia & Mclaughlin Ave. for about 2 years after I moved out. My band use to play across the street at Tully Road stables. You ever see a show there?


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PostSubject: Re: Prog-Metal   Sun May 13, 2012 12:49 am

exact33 wrote:
ozzman wrote:
exact33 wrote:
some great bands already mentioned. I would add:

Anubis Gate
Aspera
Circus Maximus
Dali's Dilemma
Darkwater
Echoes
Fair to Midland
Haken
Hangar
Harmony
Kingfisher Sky
Leprous
Myrath
Pantommind
Pathosray
Serenity
Sieges Even
Souljourners
Suspyre
Vougan

I agree some great bands mentioned. Symphony X, Pagans Mind, Threshold all high on my list.

exact33 I only recognize a few bands on your list Anubis Gate, Darkwater & Dali's Dilemma . I think they are from where I live San Jose, Ca. But I do not have a cd by them.

I think I will have to check some of theses bands out, Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, cheers

anytime. Welcome to the board btw!

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