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PostSubject: The world is backwards   Fri May 18, 2012 12:21 pm

Common sense is no more:

http://gooddaysacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/05/17/suspended-for-stopping-assault/

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DEL REY OAKS, Monterey County (CBS 5) – Safeway has suspended an employee at a Monterey County store, despite being called a hero by police for stopping a domestic assault in the store last month.

Ryan Young, a meat clerk at the Safeway in Del Rey Oaks, said he was doing his job when he saw Quyen Van Tran beating his girlfriend, who is six months pregnant.

“Every few seconds he would turn around and push her and then he actually kicked her,” Young said. “I told him to calm down and he was just irate.”

Young said Tran refused to stop and jumped in to stop the assault.

“I saw no one was intervening in the situation and I just became afraid for her safety and also other customers safety,” Young said. “The guy was out of control and pretty much lost it in there.”

Chief Ron Langford of the Del Ray Oaks Police said if Ryan did not intervene, things could have become much worse for the victim.

But Young said Safeway has suspended him without pay, for supposedly violating company policy. The store has not given word on if or when he will be allowed back.

“We understand about policy, but at some point someone has to do something. And in my mind, in this case Ryan did the right thing,” Langford said.

Young has no income, while his wife is five months pregnant.

“It’s a tremendous amount of stress on me, my wife as well. And I don’t think anyone should have to second-guess themselves or feel bad doing something that was right,” he said.

Even if Safeway doesn’t agree, Young said he has no regrets.

“How many people have been injured, murdered, whatever in front of everyone because everyone looks the other way and no one wants to get involved?” he said.

Safeway’s corporate offices have not responded to CBS 5’s requests for comment as of Tuesday night.

A manager at a Safeway store in San Francisco told CBS 5 he wasn’t sure of an official policy, but he said employees are supposed to contact store security or a manager if they see a conflict inside the store.
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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Fri May 18, 2012 2:47 pm

Dumb.
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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Fri May 18, 2012 3:53 pm

A promotion should have been in order.
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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Fri May 18, 2012 5:54 pm

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A manager at a Safeway store in San Francisco told CBS 5 he wasn’t sure of an official policy, but he said employees are supposed to contact store security or a manager if they see a conflict inside the store.

There's no time for that when something is happening right in front of you. Who knows how long it might take to find the manager or security guy.
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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Fri May 18, 2012 8:15 pm

Common sense is so uncommon these days.
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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Fri May 18, 2012 8:21 pm

if the guy lived around where i do, i'd offer him a job with better pay. there are so few stand up guys anymore.

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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Fri May 18, 2012 9:41 pm

mc, I was thinking it'd be cool if another store gave him a job.
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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Fri May 18, 2012 9:52 pm

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mc, I was thinking it'd be cool if another store gave him a job.

With the exposure this story is bringing on facebook the dude will have job offers coming out of his ears by early next week.

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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Fri May 18, 2012 11:22 pm

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Dark Horseman wrote:
mc, I was thinking it'd be cool if another store gave him a job.

With the exposure this story is bringing on facebook the dude will have job offers coming out of his ears by early next week.


Indeed. This situation is a perfect example of stupid corporate policies that are completely unrealistic. I am sure the policy was written by an attorney and then enforced by moron Human Resources people. I love Human Resources because they do a tremendous amount of stupid things and, in essence, practice law without a license.
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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Fri May 18, 2012 11:55 pm

My buddy is a manager at CVS and they have all these corporate rules and regulations about not get involved in any conflicts/thefts, etc., and just calling security rather than going after the perpetrators because of all kinds of legal issues, which is standard I guess in these types of stores. A few times he's seen people walk away with things and he couldn't even go after them, except for one time when he called the police and helped them run the guy down a block away from the store.

Anyway, if Safeway wants to save face, this guy should be given a raise and a promotion. Perhaps a community boycott can help his cause.
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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Sat May 19, 2012 2:15 pm

I think the policy not to get involved is good because people who are trained to handle conflict should, but when instances like this arise that there is no time to react because bodily harm is happening, the employee is right to react.

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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Sun May 20, 2012 6:27 pm

exact33 wrote:
I think the policy not to get involved is good because people who are trained to handle conflict should, but when instances like this arise that there is no time to react because bodily harm is happening, the employee is right to react.

That's what i'm saying... Only when no one else is around should a person take action. Otherwise let the trained people do their jobs.
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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Mon May 21, 2012 10:51 am

exact33 wrote:
I think the policy not to get involved is good because people who are trained to handle conflict should, but when instances like this arise that there is no time to react because bodily harm is happening, the employee is right to react.

My brother is a high school teacher and a few years ago, he got written up and admonished for breaking up a fight between 2 students in the hallway. The school policy is to call security and not get involved for fear of lawsuits. Seemed pretty dumb to me, but what do I know.

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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Mon May 21, 2012 12:56 pm

MetalGuy71 wrote:
exact33 wrote:
I think the policy not to get involved is good because people who are trained to handle conflict should, but when instances like this arise that there is no time to react because bodily harm is happening, the employee is right to react.

My brother is a high school teacher and a few years ago, he got written up and admonished for breaking up a fight between 2 students in the hallway. The school policy is to call security and not get involved for fear of lawsuits. Seemed pretty dumb to me, but what do I know.


The beautiful litigious society that we live in!

"Land of the Free" my ass...........
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PostSubject: Re: The world is backwards   Tue May 22, 2012 2:18 pm

MetalGuy71 wrote:
exact33 wrote:
I think the policy not to get involved is good because people who are trained to handle conflict should, but when instances like this arise that there is no time to react because bodily harm is happening, the employee is right to react.

My brother is a high school teacher and a few years ago, he got written up and admonished for breaking up a fight between 2 students in the hallway. The school policy is to call security and not get involved for fear of lawsuits. Seemed pretty dumb to me, but what do I know.

and he would have been one of the people named in the lawsuit if he didnt help and one of the kids was seriously injured or more. Cant do anything right in today's world.

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