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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:52 pm

Yes, I can.
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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:55 pm

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Yes, I can.

Then how do you justify saying what others are a slave to or not, by being able to move the goal post ?

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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:04 pm

James - You can say what you like. The guy ate out of garbage cans and prison food [prison was not by his choice], walked to gigs, CHOSE to become a media demon, etc. It was always his choice. He CHOSE to love heroine. If he was a slave to anyone, it was the dealer, and I will give ya that. Still, You can move to Montana, Listen to Santana, but you still won't be a cool as Sha-Na-Na.

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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:29 pm

Freedom of choice and being free of the consequences pertaining to those choices are two separate things.

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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:31 pm

Be free is saying "F THE CONSEQUENCES"! That is my whole point.
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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:56 pm

UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
Be free is saying "F THE CONSEQUENCES"!  That is my whole point.

I see your point John.

Bet he'd love to have a mulligan on that final fix that did him in.

(IMHO) Regardless if he was the only living example of total freedom to ever walk the earth or not, the man was a attention whore.

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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:45 pm

I don't disagree with you at all, brother. But, he went out doing what he loves. Peter Tosh went out strumming a guitar, Some surfers went out doing what they love - hell, some military folks went out doing what they love. Should we not ALL go out doing what we love?
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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:08 pm

It's all good John. I can be an @$$ at times and perhaps this was one of those times ? I was focusing on the means to the ends and not necessarily the overall picture. Your perspective, my perspective, his perspective, her perspective, anyone's perspective is not always going to jive. I see now that perhaps you respect what the man did, but not the way he done it in every capacity ?

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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:15 pm

My exposure (pun not intended) to G.G. Allin is limited to the "Hated" documentary and some bootleg videos a guy loaned me 20 years ago. He was an, errrr, interesting fella. I feel a bit safer knowing that the guy isn't walking around loose anymore.

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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:23 pm

James B. wrote:
. I see now that perhaps you respect what the man did, but not the way he done it in every capacity ?

Damn, skippy. I consider myself halfways "normal". But as long as I live, I will never tell you, or Keith, or Ult, or 80's Lady, how to live.
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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:18 am

I actually kind of relate to this topic. When I was in high school, I was obsessed with the history of the Third Reich. I read book after book on the subject (I would end up majoring in history in college). When I got an assignment to write a paper on a "literary figure" I admired, I wrote it on Joseph Goebbels. I had a string of reasons: his hard work, his overcoming adversity (he had a club foot), his intelligence, the strength of his convictions, his loyalty, and that he stayed by Hitler's side until the end while other leading Nazis were trying to get away. The teacher, I think, gave me an 'A' on the paper and wrote "interesting choice." I think I would have been reported in today's climate, Laughing

GG and Goebbels both had a power to control young minds through their propaganda that promoted hatred and violence to achieve their ends. I guess it shows one can admire certain aspects that make up a person, but sometimes those very aspects create a type of person who should not be admired at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:07 am

UNCLE SAXON'S KICKASS CDS wrote:
You guys [and gal] are so sensitive.  My only point was he answered to no one.  I sure don't agree with throwing poop at people, etc.  But I have yet to meet a single person in this life that was not a slave to another person[s] - family, creditors, Jesus, whomever.  That, to me, is real freedom.  Like it or not.

Lou Reed answered to no one. Hell, he was even eulogized by Steve Albini for his ability to thoroughly "not give a $#@%." The man who delivered Lulu on the masses and pissed off multiple generations of Metallica fans didn't answer to anybody. He wasn't doing it for notoriety. He wasn't doing it for sales. He did it because - hell, who was going to stop him?

The idea that anyone CHOOSES to love heroin is also a bit of a reach. Having been near a few people who fell into that trap, it's almost always borne out of either being a train looking for a good place to wreck or looking for a way to die but not quite having the guts to just do it all at once. I have a really hard time romanticizing the most badass of physical and psychological addictions as some kind of footloose and fancy free "rebel without a cause" thing. That shit destroys people and takes away their will while it does so.

Hell, it's not even a "rock" drug. The rockers co-opted it from the jazz guys (is nothing sacred?).
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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:07 pm

If you're going to tell society to f**k-off and do things on your own terms, this is the way to do it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Proenneke



I have more respect for the wooden spoon he whittled from a log than whatever noise GG ever made.

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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:32 am

One more thing concerning G.G - that I thought disturbing -
John Wayne Gasey was his hero...?....and G.G had visited Gasey in the State pen !
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PostSubject: Re: Still one of my heros.   Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:41 am

Glower wrote:
One more thing concerning G.G - that I thought disturbing -
John Wayne Gasey was his hero...?....and G.G had visited Gasey in the State pen !

Yeah, that's beyond disturbing. It's always beyond weird regarding the groupie thing, with women and the whole serial killer thing, and then there's this. It's a good thing G.G is dead.
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