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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:37 pm

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I think Tate's voice still sounds pretty good.  He could do a great Empire-like album with the right songwriter and backing band.  But it won't happen.

I bought this new album from QUEENSRYCHE and instantly regretted it.  It has some good tracks but overall is very dull and safe.

Tate solo is terrible, and Todd-Ryche is just boring.

Not sure why ToB bought the album. I could have told him he'd dislike it. Haha.

As for you, Shawn, I think you should give them a good listen at some point. That you find them boring is surprising to me, knowing a lot of what you do like, you know. I wonder if all the band drama and your love of early Ryche/Tate has got you a bit jaded.

Maybe not, of course; but seriously, if you'd never said anything I would have assumed you'd really dig the Toddryche albums.

Anyway, for those interested:



Good tune, but not one I'd have chosen for a new single. I'd have gone with "Hellfire."

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:06 pm

"Hellfire" is a great track. I spun this album again this past weekend. Still dig it. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:23 pm

The Tateryche/Toddryche flame wars are the absolute worst. I thought the Metallica vs. Megadeth fuckheads were silly, but they're usually 13-14 years old, these people are in their late 40's.

Opinions are one thing, but I hate those sexually-repressed housewives that write in on YouTube saying how spiritually connected they are to Geoff's lyrics whilst bashing Todd for being a terrible singer - it's ridiculous.
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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:00 pm

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The Tateryche/Toddryche flame wars are the absolute worst. I thought the Metallica vs. Megadeth fuckheads were silly, but they're usually 13-14 years old, these people are in their late 40's.

Opinions are one thing, but I hate those sexually-repressed housewives that write in on YouTube saying how spiritually connected they are to Geoff's lyrics whilst bashing Todd for being a terrible singer - it's ridiculous.

DakotaRogers, that's one of the reasons why I don't post on Youtube. Another reason is comments like this one (from a month ago) referring to Vicious Rumors "Digital Dictator"


"Easily one of the most underrated bands. Billion superior than Metallica"

I am with the poster on the first sentence, but not on the second. Maybe it's me, but it's 2016. Are people still that butt hurt over Lars and the Napster thing or the St. Anger album?


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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:29 pm

Eyesore wrote:
Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
I think Tate's voice still sounds pretty good.  He could do a great Empire-like album with the right songwriter and backing band.  But it won't happen.

I bought this new album from QUEENSRYCHE and instantly regretted it.  It has some good tracks but overall is very dull and safe.

Tate solo is terrible, and Todd-Ryche is just boring.

Not sure why ToB bought the album. I could have told him he'd dislike it. Haha.

As for you, Shawn, I think you should give them a good listen at some point. That you find them boring is surprising to me, knowing a lot of what you do like, you know. I wonder if all the band drama and your love of early Ryche/Tate has got you a bit jaded.

Maybe not, of course; but seriously, if you'd never said anything I would have assumed you'd really dig the Toddryche albums.


They sound like some other band trying to sound like Queensryche.

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:01 pm

Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
I think Tate's voice still sounds pretty good.  He could do a great Empire-like album with the right songwriter and backing band.  But it won't happen.

I bought this new album from QUEENSRYCHE and instantly regretted it.  It has some good tracks but overall is very dull and safe.

Tate solo is terrible, and Todd-Ryche is just boring.

Not sure why ToB bought the album. I could have told him he'd dislike it. Haha.

As for you, Shawn, I think you should give them a good listen at some point. That you find them boring is surprising to me, knowing a lot of what you do like, you know. I wonder if all the band drama and your love of early Ryche/Tate has got you a bit jaded.

Maybe not, of course; but seriously, if you'd never said anything I would have assumed you'd really dig the Toddryche albums.


They sound like some other band trying to sound like Queensryche.

That's what I would say about everything that came after Tribe. Haha.

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:23 am

Eyesore wrote:
Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
I think Tate's voice still sounds pretty good.  He could do a great Empire-like album with the right songwriter and backing band.  But it won't happen.

I bought this new album from QUEENSRYCHE and instantly regretted it.  It has some good tracks but overall is very dull and safe.

Tate solo is terrible, and Todd-Ryche is just boring.

Not sure why ToB bought the album. I could have told him he'd dislike it. Haha.

As for you, Shawn, I think you should give them a good listen at some point. That you find them boring is surprising to me, knowing a lot of what you do like, you know. I wonder if all the band drama and your love of early Ryche/Tate has got you a bit jaded.

Maybe not, of course; but seriously, if you'd never said anything I would have assumed you'd really dig the Toddryche albums.


They sound like some other band trying to sound like Queensryche.

That's what I would say about everything that came after Tribe. Haha.

Then there you go.... Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:24 pm

Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Shawn Of Fire wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
I think Tate's voice still sounds pretty good.  He could do a great Empire-like album with the right songwriter and backing band.  But it won't happen.

I bought this new album from QUEENSRYCHE and instantly regretted it.  It has some good tracks but overall is very dull and safe.

Tate solo is terrible, and Todd-Ryche is just boring.

Not sure why ToB bought the album. I could have told him he'd dislike it. Haha.

As for you, Shawn, I think you should give them a good listen at some point. That you find them boring is surprising to me, knowing a lot of what you do like, you know. I wonder if all the band drama and your love of early Ryche/Tate has got you a bit jaded.

Maybe not, of course; but seriously, if you'd never said anything I would have assumed you'd really dig the Toddryche albums.


They sound like some other band trying to sound like Queensryche.

That's what I would say about everything that came after Tribe. Haha.

Then there you go.... Very Happy

Except the last two! Haha. Although I tend to think the Toddryche albums have their own unique sound compared to past Ryche albums.

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:21 am

Listen. Geoff not sounding horrible.



Although now that I hear the full version it's clear that he's getting a little help from Tobias on the more powerful bits. Still, Geoff hasn't sounded this good in ages.

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:59 am

Speaking of Geoff not sounding horrible...just kidding, this is beyond horrible.



I'm not sure what's worse, Geoff, the band, or their horrendous backing vocals. "Screaming in Digital" is an absolute joke. It's like they tried to learn the song in the dressing room five minutes before going on stage.

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:21 am

Wow! For someone who didn't want to play the old stuff, he sure is playing it now! Does he even play anything off of his new album? or any later QR?
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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:54 am

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Wow! For someone who didn't want to play the old stuff, he sure is playing it now! Does he even play anything off of his new album? or any later QR?

I know, right?

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:59 am

I'm sure he'd much rather play RfO stuff than the 2 previous releases.
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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:28 pm

I think it goes to show how amazing the new Queensryche is that this whole thread is about a guy who hasn't been in the band for ages!  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:33 pm

Eyesore wrote:
Speaking of Geoff not sounding horrible...just kidding, this is beyond horrible.



I'm not sure what's worse, Geoff, the band, or their horrendous backing vocals. "Screaming in Digital" is an absolute joke. It's like they tried to learn the song in the dressing room five minutes before going on stage.

I lasted a minute and change and had to shut it off. I am actually starting to feel bad for the guy now.
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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:54 pm

the sentinel wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Speaking of Geoff not sounding horrible...just kidding, this is beyond horrible.



I'm not sure what's worse, Geoff, the band, or their horrendous backing vocals. "Screaming in Digital" is an absolute joke. It's like they tried to learn the song in the dressing room five minutes before going on stage.

I lasted a minute and change and had to shut it off. I am actually starting to feel bad for the guy now.


That's sad, really. The talent that Tate once possessed has downgraded to this.
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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:22 pm

People paid for this, huh? At least when he was in his burlesque show phase, you could see some titties or something.

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:33 pm

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People paid for this, huh? At least when he was in his burlesque show phase, you could see some titties or something.

It has the look of a Casino show and sometimes those are free. I know that the Mohegan Sun Casino in Conn. has the Wolf Den shows and those are always free. In fact, I saw Toddryche there for gratis the end of last summer.
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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:37 pm

I was wrong, I guess people did pay for this. After a quick search of the phrase written on the tapestry behind the drummer reveals it to be the Canyon Club in Cali.
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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:01 pm

Why can't these musicians figure out how to play the damn songs? I mean...are they even close on "Screaming in Digital?" Haha.

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:40 am

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Why can't these musicians figure out how to play the damn songs? I mean...are they even close on "Screaming in Digital?" Haha.

Maybe they are taking a page from the Allman Brothers Band and play the songs different every night ? Improv maybe ?

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:34 am

I think I said something akin to this a few pages back, but Tate should have stayed with the cabaret/ burlesque thing as that seems to be where his heart really is. We all know that (a Tate led) Queensryche hasn't been Metal since the eighties and he hasn't wanted to be even Hard Rock since the late 1990's so he should just do what makes him happy. I know he wants the name recognition that comes with Queensryche but at the cost of consistently embarrassing himself? If I were him, I would have done something totally different and done the music that is in my heart. Something akin to what Ritchie Blackmore did. I know that Blackmore's Night doesn't sell like the proverbial hotcakes but the man seems happy. Well, as happy as RB usually is. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:03 pm

James B. wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Why can't these musicians figure out how to play the damn songs? I mean...are they even close on "Screaming in Digital?" Haha.

Maybe they are taking a page from the Allman Brothers Band and play the songs different every night ?  Improv maybe ?

They could try and pass off that excuse for sub-par performances, but I don't think they're fooling anyone. Does Geoff really strike you as an "improve-jam-band-sorta guy"? Razz

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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:20 pm

the sentinel wrote:
I think I said something akin to this a few pages back, but Tate should have stayed with the cabaret/ burlesque thing as that seems to be where his heart really is. We all know that (a Tate led) Queensryche hasn't been Metal since the eighties and he hasn't wanted to be even Hard Rock since the late 1990's so he should just do what makes him happy. I know he wants the name recognition that comes with Queensryche but at the cost of consistently embarrassing himself? If I were him, I would have done something totally different and done the music that is in my heart. Something akin to what Ritchie Blackmore did. I know that Blackmore's Night doesn't sell like the proverbial hotcakes but the man seems happy. Well, as happy as RB usually is. Smile

Yes, the only small differences between Tate and Blackmore's Night being

a) Blackmore's Night have an amazing singer.
b) Ritchie is a phenomenal musician.
c) They surround themselves with professionals.



You might not like what Ritchie is doing but he does it damned well. Can you see the people this deluded idiot surrounds himself with pulling this off?
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PostSubject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE   Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:04 pm

I have no problem with what RB does now as it appears he is genuinely happy with it and with doing it. And, you are absolutely correct on all 3 points about the differences. My point is that Blackmore is doing something totally different than his former band mates while Tate is trying to outdo his former mates. And he keeps failing at it.

Great vid, by the way. Thanks.
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