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PostSubject: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:06 pm

Iím kinda excited about this -
Not expecting much dirt -
But heís a metal journeyman!
Itíll be a fun read - anyone have any thoughts ?
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:31 pm

My reporter friend got an advance copy from the publisher. He sez it was "a collection of sour grapes."

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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:41 pm

Fat Freddy wrote:
My reporter friend got an advance copy from the publisher. He sez it was "a collection of sour grapes."
Won't be buying it if that's the case. Which sucks, because when I first heard about it I was really excited about reading it.
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:07 pm

I will read it at some point, but I am surprised it is such a negative book, since he quit the band, not fired
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:53 pm

Wish he would go back to playing with the band.
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:22 am

Can't wait to read it. I hope it does expose all the dirt.
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:17 am

manny wrote:
I will read it at some point, but I am surprised it is such a negative book, since he quit the band, not fired

If reports are to be believed, it sounds like KK is somewhat regretting his departure. His post-Priest ventures didn't seem to work out (the golf resort, and remember the cologne?), he sold off his music rights, presumably for quick cash and now, Priest seems perfectly fine moving-on without him.

This could be his last ditch effort to make some noise, which unfortunately means pissing on his former band mates.

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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:33 pm

KK on Mitch Lafon

https://omny.fm/shows/rock-talk-with-mitch-lafon/k-k-downing-king-crimson-and-foreigner-helloween
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:22 pm

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This could be his last ditch effort to make some noise, which unfortunately means pissing on his former band mates.

He has the right to give his perspective on the way things went down in that band, just as they do.

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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:26 pm

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Can't wait to read it. †I hope it does expose all the dirt. †
So because of your dislike for them, you'll believe every word he says, if it's negative towards them huh? Three sides to every story, yours, mine and the truth.
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:33 pm

Temple of Blood wrote:
MetalGuy71 wrote:
This could be his last ditch effort to make some noise, which unfortunately means pissing on his former band mates.

He has the right to give his perspective on the way things went down in that band, just as they do.


Yup. I'm not debating or taking sides. I'm just saying. It's unlikely I'll read it anyway. I just don't read as much as I used to.

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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:47 pm

Wrecked Neck wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
Can't wait to read it. †I hope it does expose all the dirt. †
So because of your dislike for them, you'll believe every word he says, if it's negative towards them huh? Three sides to every story, yours, mine and the truth.

My dislike for who exactly? JP is tied for my favorite band ever.

They have every opportunity to respond to anything negative he says. They are not gentle flowers who need to be protected from unkind words. Every band and person has problems.
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:28 pm

A friend of mine ordered a copy for him and myself (a belated birthday gift for me). As far as sour grapes aren't a lot of these books this way? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:35 am

Temple of Blood wrote:
Wrecked Neck wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
Can't wait to read it. †I hope it does expose all the dirt. †
So because of your dislike for them, you'll believe every word he says, if it's negative towards them huh? Three sides to every story, yours, mine and the truth.

My dislike for who exactly? † JP is tied for my favorite band ever.
Really? Seems to me that every post you've made about them is very negative. Maybe I have mistaken you for someone else, or maybe I've read what you wrote wrong, but you don't seem like much of a fan of theirs. Which is fine with me, not everyone has good taste in music lol

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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:34 am

I'm definitely getting this book!

KK seems to be a fair and balanced guy. I'm not expecting anything like the Rex Brown memoir, but I know KK just tells it like it is.
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:48 am

Wrecked Neck wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
Wrecked Neck wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
Can't wait to read it. †I hope it does expose all the dirt. †
So because of your dislike for them, you'll believe every word he says, if it's negative towards them huh? Three sides to every story, yours, mine and the truth.

My dislike for who exactly? † JP is tied for my favorite band ever.
Really? Seems to me that every post you've made about them is very negative. Maybe I have mistaken you for someone else, or maybe I've read what you wrote wrong, but you don't seem like much of a fan of theirs. Which is fine with me, not everyone has good taste in music lol


In defense of ToB, he is a huge fan, however he is not a fan of Firepower. I think that is what he has been critical of and not the band. He doesn't like it and that's fine by me. I love it!
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:13 am

If you are hoping that this book will dish the dirt, you are going to be disappointed.
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:21 pm

mikeinfla wrote:
Wrecked Neck wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
Wrecked Neck wrote:
Temple of Blood wrote:
Can't wait to read it. †I hope it does expose all the dirt. †
So because of your dislike for them, you'll believe every word he says, if it's negative towards them huh? Three sides to every story, yours, mine and the truth.

My dislike for who exactly? † JP is tied for my favorite band ever.
Really? Seems to me that every post you've made about them is very negative. Maybe I have mistaken you for someone else, or maybe I've read what you wrote wrong, but you don't seem like much of a fan of theirs. Which is fine with me, not everyone has good taste in music lol


In defense of ToB, he is a huge fan, however he is not a fan of Firepower. I think that is what he has been critical of and not the band. He doesn't like it and that's fine by me. I love it!
Ah, maybe that's what I'm remembering.
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:52 pm

Yeah, I've been very negative about where the band is now and the quality of the last two albums.

But their discography and achievements in metal are amazing. Huge fan overall.
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:35 pm

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Yeah, I've been very negative about where the band is now and the quality of the last two albums.

But their discography and achievements in metal are amazing. †Huge fan overall.

It's amazing how fans of the same band can have completely different perspectives. I honestly think Firepower has the best songs since Defenders but don't really like Sacred Cows like Painkiller and Screaming for Vengeance (well, I do quite like them but certainly don't think that they are near the top of the pile)

Looking at it objectively I just put it down to the fact that I'm right and everyone else is wrong. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:34 pm

Imo, everything Priest has done since Painkiller has been a bit forced or generic (although I do like certain songs from every album). That said, I think Firepower is the best thing they've done since 1990. The previous album was decent but suffered a horrible production.
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:47 pm

Priest, IMO, have had very few true missteps in their career. Overall, they stay true to playing heavy metal...can't fault them for that.

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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:00 pm

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Priest, IMO, have had very few true missteps in their career. Overall, they stay true to playing heavy metal...can't fault them for that.

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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:02 am

Had to look it up - 18 releases ( thatíd be a cool trivia question - name them in order )
And a staggering 50 million copies sold.
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PostSubject: Re: K.K Downing - Heavy Duty - new book   Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:23 am

Been reading a lot of stories on this situation. Didn't realize things were this bad between them.

One article (interview) was KK saying before he left, the rest of the band couldn't keep up with him and he had to slow down for them:

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/k-k-downing-judas-priest-last-tour/
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