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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:37 pm
I've been listening to the Blaze albums pretty much continuously over the past few weeks after being yelled at my equally Maiden-mad friend for completely dismissing them without ever giving them a fair chance.
..and you know what?. He was absolutely correct. While i still think Blaze is a really (at best) average vocalist, there are some really good songs spread out over the two albums. The problem is.. there just isn't enough good stuff to fill two full albums, and all of the filler makes listening to either album all the way through seem like really hard work.
But.. if you took the best tracks from that period, and made them into a single disc, you end up with a really good - and perhaps even great album.
This would be my complete Blaze-era album:
01: Sign of the Cross 02: Lord of the Flies 03: Man on the edge 04: Look for the truth (This song in particular exposes Blaze's limits as a vocalist for Maiden. He absolutely murders the "Whoooaaaooohhhh ohhhhh" hook in the chorus. Really gorgeous melody and solo on this track, though). 05: Virus 06: Futureal (just for the solo!) 07: Lightning Strikes Twice 08: The Clansman (in my top 10 Maiden tracks of all time) 09: When Two Worlds Collide
There we go. Would anyone else like for them to record a few of these in the studio with Bruce, maybe as future b-sides or whatever, like they did with a few of the Dianno tracks (with mixed results, to be fair)?.
Bruce versions of Sign of the Cross and The Clansman would be especially nice.
thejokeriv Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:08 pm
Planchaaaa wrote:
I Bruce versions of Sign of the Cross and The Clansman would be especially nice.
They are on Rock In Rio
MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:52 pm
thejokeriv wrote:
Planchaaaa wrote:
I Bruce versions of Sign of the Cross and The Clansman would be especially nice.
They are on Rock In Rio
The last time I saw Maiden live on the Brave New World tour a few years ago, they played 'The Clansman'. I don't recall if they played 'Sign of the Cross' or not.
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thejokeriv Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:23 pm
MetalGuy71 wrote:
thejokeriv wrote:
Planchaaaa wrote:
I Bruce versions of Sign of the Cross and The Clansman would be especially nice.
They are on Rock In Rio
The last time I saw Maiden live on the Brave New World tour a few years ago, they played 'The Clansman'. I don't recall if they played 'Sign of the Cross' or not.
Yep - they did, it was part of the set list
MetalGuy71 Bukkake Tsunami
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:17 pm
They very well could have, I just don't remember. Especially if it was a song I was unfamiliar with. The only reason I remember 'The Clansman' was because of the giant backdrop the band played in front of during the song. It looked like Eddie as William Wallace from Braveheart.
Oh, here it is...
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thejokeriv Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:21 pm
MetalGuy71 wrote:
They very well could have, I just don't remember. Especially if it was a song I was unfamiliar with. The only reason I remember 'The Clansman' was because of the giant backdrop the band played in front of during the song. It looked like Eddie as William Wallace from Braveheart.
Oh, here it is...
Yep - that is bad a$$!!!!!
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:38 pm
I loved Bruce's rendition of "Clansman" when I saw Maiden on the B.N.W. tour, but I still groaned when they went into "Sign of the Cross." Even Bruce on vox couldn't save that track IMO. You can't polish a turd.
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Sutekh Metal master
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:07 pm
thejokeriv wrote:
Planchaaaa wrote:
I Bruce versions of Sign of the Cross and The Clansman would be especially nice.
They are on Rock In Rio
They're good versions, too, and better suited to Bruce's theatricality given their subject matter.
mr.electric39 Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:02 am
Saw 'em in 2003 and they trotted out The Clansman to my total musical edification....!
ok I'm a sucker and my youngest son is the lead vocalist.... but the rest of the guys are seasoned musicians.....
What do ya think?
thejokeriv Metal is Forever
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:53 am
Impressive stage set up!!! Band plays pretty good and your son sounds great!!!! The need a dual headling set with The Iron Maidens
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:41 am
Fat Freddy wrote:
I loved Bruce's rendition of "Clansman" when I saw Maiden on the B.N.W. tour, but I still groaned when they went into "Sign of the Cross." Even Bruce on vox couldn't save that track IMO. You can't polish a turd.
If you chop off the beginning and ending of Sign, it's a great prog rock instrumental track.
It's the dumb ass lyrics that put me off.
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:49 pm
manny wrote:
On to the next Iron Maiden album 2006's 'A Matter of Life and Death' and personally I love every track on this album.
I've been listening to this album non-stop for a couple of weeks, and i think i would rank it as their third best studio release. I still don't think 'Different World' fits the album especially well (it sounds like a b-side), but all the other songs are incredibly strong. I really love all the artwork from this period and own no-less than five different '..life and death' related shirts.
I think this album should perhaps have ended their 'progressive' period; as i don't think it could be bettered. It's an almost perfect combination of melody, emotion, musical prowess, strong lyrical content and anthemic choruses. A Final Frontier clearly attempts to follow this same template, but just doesn't have a strong enough set of songs to support the length or ambition.
I hope this isn't their last great album.. but i sense it might be.
I've never actually watched the DVD that came with the album. I shall attempt to do so this weekend.
Hey, Ult, has your opinion of this album changed since you wrote your somewhat lukewarm review of it?
manny mini boss
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:20 pm
I have to agree with your assessment when it comes to comparing The Final Frontier and A Matter of Life.., as much as I like the Final Frontier it does not come close to A Matter IMO
mr.electric39 Heart of Metal
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:24 pm
Another shameless plug for INVADER.... performing MOONCHILD.... and I won't post anymore here in this thread.....
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:32 pm
Iron Maiden have released yet another compilation - this time a 2 disc album covering the 1990 to 2010 period. How many compilations is enough?
wmcollis Metal student
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:16 am
MetalGuy71 wrote:
I'm still on the fence with this album. While I enjoyed it immediately better than A Matter of Life and Death, it's allot to digest in one sitting. Clocking in at over 80 minutes, I start to tune out around the 45 minute mark. It was suggested to me to start at track 6 'The Isle of Avalon' and let it play through and that did seem to make things move a little better.
It was also suggested that Iron Maiden has moved away from their hard rock/heavy metal roots and morphed into more of a prog-rock band. I guess I can see that too.
Time will tell with me on how this album sits in Maiden's discography. There aren't any bad songs or songs I want to skip, but it's just too long of a journey from Point A to Point B for me. I think it will be an album that I'll need to be in the right frame of mind to listen to it and not the first pick when I need a Maiden fix.
The Album does not disapoint. I like the direction and sound of the band. The Alchemist, The Man Who Would Be King, The Talisman and Coming Home are stand out tracks from a truly great album. I've found that by mixing up the order show cases different elements of the songs. Does anyone else notice something about the vocals which hit me from the very first listen. Almost as if they are farther back in the mix. This album gives the three guitars more breathe. The parts each play are very distinct and identifiable. A good showcase of all three guitarists. Man these guys can play....
ShadowAngel Metal student
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:05 pm
I hope it's ok to write in this older threats? In some forums they go crazy for 'ressurecting old stuff' and i was just too late in registering here (should've done it earlier)
Anyway, Iron Maiden was the band that brought me to metal. My parents owned Number of the Beast and Piece of Mind and i always listened to their vinyls and the first time i heard Number of the Beast i was blown away. Before that i mostly listened to Pink Floyd, Toto, Dire Strats, Deep Purple and thought Metal wasn't something for me (i was about 10 when i really discovered Metal) as we kids were always told that it was 'evil'. I remember a schoolbook that had various articles about dangerous materials. There was an article about video games and how bad they are and another one about the evils of Heavy Metal, Iron Maiden was the focal point of it and they named them "satanists" because of Number of the Beast and "just look at the cover!!" So i thought "OK, that's music to avoid", then i thought "Wait a minute...if my parents own those albums, how bad can they be?" So one day i just started the album and was blown away. Great music and it still holds up, though some of the later albums are slightly better.
Funnily enough, i never could get into Killers, i think that album would sound better with Bruce Dickinson, there's something about the sound and production that doesn't mix with Di'Annos voice. Though i really like their debut album. Strange World is a great song. I've seen Maiden several times live and one thing i hate is that they rarely change their setlist. Always the same stuff and they constantly ignore two of my favourite songs (Flash of the Blade and Wasted Years).
I also like their change in style from the past 10 years going into a more progressive, interesting direction and once they dropped the "repeat the chorus 500 times" thing, they got really good - if only Martin Birch would still produce them.
I think my favourite albums are Powerslave, Somewhere in Time, A Matter of Life and Death and Number of the Beast, i would include the first album as a Top 5 without live albums. They're awesome live and i enjoy Live after Death and Rock in Rio a lot.
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:32 pm
You can chime on whenever you want on these threads and comment on whatever album you wish to comment on
James B. Scurvy Skalliwag
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:54 pm
manny wrote:
You can chime on whenever you want on these threads and comment on whatever album you wish to comment on
yeppers. imagine that, dialogue on a discussion forum
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:11 pm
James B. wrote:
manny wrote:
You can chime on whenever you want on these threads and comment on whatever album you wish to comment on
yeppers. imagine that, dialogue on a discussion forum
I should put a disclaimer, that this does not apply to the Metallica thread!
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:13 pm
manny wrote:
James B. wrote:
manny wrote:
You can chime on whenever you want on these threads and comment on whatever album you wish to comment on
yeppers. imagine that, dialogue on a discussion forum
I should put a disclaimer, that this does not apply to the Metallica thread!
I am still trying to figure out how you are not a REAL fan of a band unless you think everything they have done is golden.
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:14 pm
James B. wrote:
manny wrote:
James B. wrote:
manny wrote:
You can chime on whenever you want on these threads and comment on whatever album you wish to comment on
yeppers. imagine that, dialogue on a discussion forum
I should put a disclaimer, that this does not apply to the Metallica thread!
I am still trying to figure out how you are not a REAL fan of a band unless you think everything they have done is golden.
James, I can't comment on the Metallica thread too much, I am the only person in the history of the world who had defended 'Lulu'
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:32 pm
ShadowAngel wrote:
I hope it's ok to write in this older threats? In some forums they go crazy for 'ressurecting old stuff' and i was just too late in registering here (should've done it earlier)
I've seen Maiden several times live and one thing i hate is that they rarely change their setlist. Always the same stuff and they constantly ignore two of my favourite songs (Flash of the Blade and Wasted Years).
Always cool to bring up old threads!!!!
BTW - Maiden have varied their set list tremendously since Bruce and Adrian returned. I am stealing a post that someone from the Maiden fan club did. They have played 67 different songs since they. They change the set list every tour and sometime for different legs of a tour:
It is a fact that Iron Maiden have not varied the set list on a tour since Bruce and Adrian's return apart from minor changes during earlier gigs or bigger changes on returning legs.
This has given rise to the opinion of many that Iron Maiden always play the same songs. Some even suggesting that they do not even vary the set list from tour to tour.
Is this correct or a false assumption ?
Yes they have played a few songs a lot over the last 12 years but to say they always play the same songs I think is up for debate.
Only 2 songs have been played on every tour since 1999 - Hallowed Be Thy Name and Iron Maiden.
The Number Of The Beast was not played in 2006 and Fear Of The Dark in 2005.
Yes these 4 songs do form the inner core of Maiden's set list and have done on nearly every tour since the "reunion".
Is having a core of a few songs that uncommon amongst other bands ?
Maiden have played 4 album tours since 1999 where they played at least 5 news songs from the album (8 from BNW, 6 from DOD and 5 from TFF) not something a lot of bands of their longevity do and for AMOLAD they played the new entire album again something rarely done by bands of their longevity.
Yes aswell as the 4 inner core songs there has been some songs that have cropped up alot -
Wrathchild (not played in Summer 2003, 2006, 2008 and 2011) The Trooper (not played in 2006,2010) 2 Minutes To Midnight (not played 2003/2004 DOD, 2010) The Evil That Men Do (not played Summer 2003, 2005,2008 and 2010) Run To The Hills (not played 2000, 2006, 2010, 2011)
Yes so far enough they have played these 9 songs a lot over the last few years. on average 7 of out 9 on any given tour, with a set list of between 15 to 17 songs then it is less than half the set on average.
Since 1999 Iron Maiden have played 67 songs, yes some songs outwith this 9 have appeared a few times but they have provided us with a few surprises and little gems over the last 12 years.
1999 - yes the vast majority of the set list contains songs that were consistently in the set at the time but it was apparently voted for by the fans, it saw the return of Bruce and Adrian, all songs heard for the first time with 3 guitars, plus it had one of my all time favourites - Killers plus Aces High and Powerslave for the first time in 14 years. First Greatest Hits tour. (contains - all 9 of the core songs)
2000/2001/2002 - 6 new songs for the vast majority of the tour plus an additional 2 near the end. Notable for Bruce testing his vocal talents on Sign Of The Cross and also the reappearance of Children Of The Damned for 2002 dates. Plus they didn't play Run To The Hills apart from the last 2 gigs in 2001, why did they have go and spoil it (contains - all 9 of the core songs at some point)
2003 Give Ed - a set list containing 7 of the 9 core songs but also songs that had not been played for years - 22 Acacia Avenue, Bring Your Daughter, Revelations and Die With Your Boots On plus new song Wildest Dreams.
2003/2004 - 6 new songs, 7 of 9 core songs, most notable for Blaze era song Lord Of The Flies
2005 - Eddie Rips - tour based around the first 4 albums - 6 of 9 core songs but also songs that had not been played in over 20 years - Another Life, Charlotte The Harlot, Drifter and not for over 10 years - Where Eagles Dare and Prowler. Charlotte The Harlot dropped after a few gigs for Wrathchild.
2006 - 10 new songs, fair enough the other 5 tracks were all core songs but they played the whole new album thats brave.
2007 - 5 album tracks dropped in a favour as we were lead to believe to also include 5 songs from Number Of The Beast(we only got 4). 4 additional core songs to take the core total to 9 of 9 core songs but again Children Of The Damned - second time since Somewhere On Tour.
2008 - tour based around first 8 albums, (plus Fear Of The Dark ). 7 of 9 core songs. First appearance of Rime Of The Ancient Mariner and Moonchild for about 20 years, Aces High and Powerslave in nearly 10 years. Fear Of The Dark included in my opinion due to the uproar from some fans about being left out in 2005.
2009 - follow on from 2008, changes to the set resulting in all 9 core songs plus 3rd appearance of both Children Of The Damned and Phantom Of The Opera since the reunion.
2010 - probably the most surprising set list of the modern era based on the previous 3 studio albums. Set contains 5 of 9 core songs, a new song El Dorado but it also contains 8 modern era songs not played since their respective album tours. Brighter Than A Thousand Suns and Paschendale were played but dropped early in the tour.
2011 - 7 songs dropped from the set list for most 2010 in favour of 4 new songs and 3 of the 9 core tracks given a total of 7 of 9.
So with all that do you think Maiden play the same songs all the time ?
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:36 pm
manny wrote:
James, I can't comment on the Metallica thread too much, I am the only person in the history of the world who had defended 'Lulu'
You are you, bro Not everyone gets Lou Reed, much less takes/digests each thing he does for what it is. I respect his angle of music being art and visa/versa. LuLu could of been recorded three years ago or three years from now and it would be a totlay different expression.
I also feel it was a mistake to even mention Metallica's involvement before it was released. Let it out......let it do what it is gonna do "naturally" and then consider letting the cat out of the bag. The good thing is it became something they ALL could write off on their tax returns
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Subject: Re: IRON MAIDEN Discography Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:41 pm
[quote="thejokeriv"]
ShadowAngel wrote:
I hope it's ok to write in this older threats? In some forums they go crazy for 'ressurecting old stuff' and i was just too late in registering here (should've done it earlier)
I've seen Maiden several times live and one thing i hate is that they rarely change their setlist. Always the same stuff and they constantly ignore two of my favourite songs (Flash of the Blade and Wasted Years).
Just as an FYI - they have never play Flash of The Blade... many fans wish they would! I'd love to hear it live!